bill, this list does not permit anonymous posting as list rules state that we are responsible for what we say. [that lifts responsability from glen or you]. it is a good thing to remind people that 'free' speech doesn't mean 'anything goes'. ordinary laws of slander, for example apply even here. [libel covers, afaik, a publication, as this is more of a chat than a publication, then badmouthing here is slander]. the dispute that you mention [i have been following this also] revolves around use of trademarks. this is however [currently] a grey area and momma's remarks [turn you tongue in your mouth seven times before speaking] apply online also as plain common sense. besides the xfb list is where all the _bad_ stuff goes on as everyone knows. :-j