On Saturday, December 14, 2002, at 02:13 PM, Robert Covington wrote: > I have CarbonLib in some modern incarnation 1.4+, but even when > including > Toolbx Fonts Include, I get a missing toolbox message at program > startup > (the crash warning, missing from this machine) for > > FMGetFontFamilyFromName > > even though Apple docs say available since Carbonlib v1.0? You would get the "Missing toolbox" message if you compiled in PPC, because FMGetFontFamilyFromName (and other routines in Tlbx Fonts.Incl) need to be imported from the FontManager library in a non-Carbon application. The header Tlbx Fonts.Incl is slightly defective in that it does not automatically point itself at the library. You can get things to work, in both PPC and Carbon, like this: '~'A ' Runtime : RNTM Lite.INCL '~'B #if CarbonLib == 0 library "FontManager" // library declaration missing from Tlbx Fonts.Incl #endif include "Tlbx Fonts.Incl" library dim fontID as FMFontFamily fontID = Fn FMGetFontFamilyFromName( "Geneva" ) print fontID Robert P.