One thing I found out about a friends 8600 that was upgraded to a G3 with a Newer G3 upgrade: We were going to install OS X on it with the third party (Other World computing) OSX utility, but needed to add RAM for OS X. Being it was an older machine, the type of RAM for ths machine is not as readily available, and is therefore more costly. In this case, the cost of the RAM for the 8600 was prohibitive. I'd suggest trying to get a used PowerMac G4. I think you'd be happier. On Thursday, January 2, 2003, at 09:07 AM, Robert Covington wrote: > I have the option to get an old PCI 604 Mac that is upgradable via PCI > Card (Sonnet) to G4 450 MHZ 1Mb cache... > > The mac is $100, the card will be $250 plus I will need some RAM. > Downside > is that the mac is SCSI based, not IDE (cheap). > > Wondering how fast OSX will run on the G4 at this speed? Tolerable? > > I am assuming a 450 G4 will be faster than a higher clocked G3 (like a > 700)?? > > Wondering if this is a good route to go ( have to be via charge card > (stupid, just got paid off)) to get to X. > > I can use Sonnet's X installer, or XPostFacto to install, but Sonnet's > requires OS 9.1 which I don't have. > > I have OSX 10.2 and 9.2 install CD's > ---- Scott Spencer SJ3 Solutions sj3@... "Mac OS X Solutions and Support"