Dear Larry, don't be that pessimistic... > To complete the debacle I do not have the same freedom in placing > ENTERPROC...EXITPROC as I do with GOSUB. I seem obliged to > put it *after* the call via INIVERSALPROC. I doubt that. Already in preFB^3 times we've put Procedures where we wished to see them in our code and the simple mechanism that allows this is described in the Reference Manual. GOTO "afterProcLabel" "procLabel" ENTERPROC . . EXITPROC "afterProcLabel" > As for Carbon support it would just bring you bad bad luck > for me to even try! How that? Best -- Herbie ------------------------ <http://www.gluender.de>