>Not that you asked for it, but my advice leave is to leave AOL. I >left right after the way they treated staz and our FB list, if anyone >remembers. So, if you can get Internet access by any other means than >AOL, do it. I'll give my opposing opinion. Yes I remember when AOL switched to charging $50k for companies to have a forum. I was a daily visitor to the Staz forum back then. AOL was switching user plans from pay as you go to one price to stay on as long as you like. In doing that, it no longer made sense to keep users online longer by giving out free forums to companies who will also get money from the ad banners that AOL was going to start using. What AOL wanted was for companies to pay $50k to have a forum and then any ad revenue or other income that came in through their forum was that companies money. The idea was the company would get their money back if they created good content. I do think $50k was a bit too high, but that's another point. The alternative was to try to latch on to a related AOL created forum and then you would pay nothing, but AOL would have control of the forum and keep the ad revenue. This is the part everyone leaves out because all companies balked at losing control of their forum and felt it wasn't an option for them. However, that's what I decided to do. AOL gave me a sub-forum in the AOL Mac Games forum. Yes they had ultimate control over the design and layouts and edited content that I submitted, but in return I had my own forum plus a free AOL account for 7 years. AOL finally closed it this May because they have been switching to more web content rather than AOL created content, but in reality I had already mostly switched to the web myself anyway because that's where most people are these days. The end result was that AOL has been very good to me. Last month's bill was the first time I paid for online service in 7 years (might be longer than that) and I'm still ahead anyway because the monthly income I get from AOL affiliates revenue is still more than I'm paying for service. I always hear that what AOL charges is too high ($23.90 per month) however you also get a ton of web space that you don't get from cheaper ISPs. Most give you maybe 5 to 10Mb of space for your $14.99 per month. AOL gives me over 100Mb at no extra cost. To get that much somewhere else, I'd be paying more than than the $23.90 that AOL is charging. Then there's the fact that I've been on AOL for 11+ years and get over 6000 visitors a month to my web site plus an unknown number that ftp in from various download links that aren't counted. I'd be a fool to leave all that. Al Staffieri Jr. AlStaff@... http://members.aol.com/AlStaff/index.html