Steve, I believe this should help with the first question. I'll have to think on your other questions since the answers/responses weren't immediately available to my limited memory. Sent this quickly (i.e. not a full demo) since you indicated a need for this tonight. Brian On Jul 12, 2004, at 4:32 PM, Steve Crossman wrote: > How can I obtain the size and top, left coordinates of an appearance > button? dim as rect btnRect fn FBGetControlRect(button&(_YourEditfield), btnRect)