On Tuesday, October 5, 2004, at 11:06 AM, Edwards, Waverly wrote: > You may be referring to overlay windows which are invisible. As it turns out, so I was: _kOverlayWindowClass, specifically, after some rooting about in the instructions. And thank you for that! One (moot) question remains: what was the nifty and recent demo that used them? -- Ted Spencer -- If you're in the rat race, you're probably a rat.