On Jun 3, 2005, at 7:28 AM, Jay Reeve wrote: > I saw a magazine ad that compared Z-Basic to C I suspect we have fewer newbies. Reading the thread and Adam's thoughtful responses was a little disturbing. It seems we have several issues that are hurting FB. If an experienced programmer like Adam finds the learning curve too daunting, we are clearly losing the newcomers who just want to learn programming. I'm more than willing to donate money (since I don' t have time--- yet---working on it) to promote FB4 with paid advertising of some sort. Hopefully, this would increase FB4's exposure and encourage new folks to try FB4. Everyone could donate at their own comfort level. The other thing we need to do is re-post this on the beta list in case Staz missed it. If enough listers are willing to participate, we can get Staz involved and ask him to target this money only for advertising. I'll go back to sleep now. I don't want Bernie to accuse me of monopolizing the list when he pulls the stats for this month ;-) Brian S.