Bob asked: > It doesn't "see" fonts with sub menu items but gets the plain ones. > What do I have to do here to pick up the sub menu items? Bob, An OS X Font Panel provides one way to accomplish this. Look in the FB folder: Examples -> **Donations** -> Robert P's Favorite Examples -> OS X Folder -> FontPanel Folder -> Font Panel tester improved Also: Examples -> **Donations** -> Robert P's Favorite Examples -> OS X Folder -> MLTE Demo Ken