As I feared, Herbie. Seems nothing is ever easy, much as we try and hope it will be. It WAS short and sweet. (smile) Joe Wilkins On Jun 21, 2008, at 3:11 AM, H. Gluender wrote: > Joe, > > if you take a look at the FB-runtimes you will realize that most > calls that FB _adds_ to the original BASIC language access Apple's > API routines. (Please remember that classic programming languages > per se don't provide GUI routines -- with this respect, they are > platform independent -- and, as mentioned before, even their IO > routines are confined to a minimum. In contrast, IDEs normally > include GUI access etc.) Of course, in the first place this concerns > windows, text fields and buttons that require the Mac toolbox, today > called API. > > Have a nice weekend including the shortest night of the year > -- > > Herbie