On Sep 9, 2008, at 3:05 PM, Robert Covington wrote: Anybody know how much longer this shell will work? (is Carbon going out the door? Don't recall if that was a yea or nay in that last discussion) -------------------------- (1) This shell and code generated by FBtoC should work for many years. Carbon is not officially deprecated but even at that stage 'deprecated' means they won't enhance it but it will still be there for use. Apple has made it clear that Cocoa is their direction and has stopped enhancing Carbon. If you are looking for new programming widgets, Cocoa is where they will be and not Carbon. (2) Another possible way to build a carbon C shell is to use FBtoC. Maybe start with the FB Shell in the Examples folder, enhance it to contain other basic functions you need and then translate it using FBtoC. You would probably want to clean up the translated C code if you are working in C. This has the benefit of making the functions that support FB keywords ( LEFT$, RIGHT$ etc. ) available to the C programmer. It might be easier for most to stick with the FB shell and use FBtoC. One advantage of going to Xcode is the editor universal. Brian