I was remiss in my posts in this thread not to point to an excellent discussion on handling NSDates in Cocoa. This is slanted toward iPhone developers, but everything discussed has direct application for FBers. http://cocoawithlove.com/2009/05/simple-methods-for-date-formatting- and.html The nice thing about Cocoa is that complicated code that would take multiple functions and many lines in Carbon can be often be reduced to a few lines of Objective-C. The challenge for FBers is to be able to input to, and access out the results of the Cocoa code. Ken