I thought I would try one more time because I knew I've seen an example of what I was looking for. Steve Van Voorst wrote a demo called "HITheme_demos". In it, it draw primitives of many HIView/Controls. If you don't have it, I'll see if I can get it to you tonight. I have my Mac but its not connected to a network. Hmmm, its got some interesting things in it. I may need to look at this a little deeper for myself. W. -----Original Message----- From: Edwards, Waverly Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 5:14 PM To: 'futurebasic@...' Subject: RE: [FB] Combining CoreText and CG I tried really hard to find the code I remember for solution #2. I thought I remembered the demo but I couldn't find it anywhere. I believe it involved the use of DrawInPort but I couldn't find anything on that either. In retrospect I'm not sure that would work anyway. DrawInPort involved changing the port then forcing the control to display in that port. Controls/HIViews have owners but I don't know how you would change the owner. Also, the controls and view may need a CGContextRef which a printer port doesn't have but RP was able to print CG graphics to the printer using "How to Print Coregraphics". I've got a long shot. You could add a carbon event (kDrawControl) to the controls you want to print , and maybe you could redirect the drawing. That may only enable you to add to what is being drawn though. I'm grasping at straws. W.