On Feb 19, 2010, at 4:29 PM, George Beckman wrote:

> 	I have used Delphi for years.  PGGP is dying.  I am no longer coding in FB.  Never made it way from Rosetta.  Meanwhile, the Windoze version runs fine on 7.  I love the Mac, but I have rewritten that sucker so many times (DOS, ProDOS, Mac 6-9,  OS- X, Windows) and each time it splits my head.  All my efforts with FreePascal seemed to render "drawn" GUI rather than  true Mac.   It sorta looked like an Apple GS GUI.  This was a couple of years ago.  Have the updated their libraries?

FreePascal has "nib" support. That means you have the option of using Interface Builder to create the UI on the Mac. The Lazarus team uses GTK+, which does use native widgets but only a subset are fully supported at this time. 

Delphi is going cross-platform, according to Embarcadero. I'm on the mailing list and so far Prism apps are running on OS X without any problems. Not sure when more public info will be available. Prism is impressive, but it is Mono/.Net based under the hood. 

Blitz, which is a procedural BASIC, is Cocoa, as well. There is a separate UI builder that I have not used. Blitz is best for games and OpenGL tricks, but it can do anything you want.

> 	I also tried Runtime Rev.  I just couldn't get off the ground with that.

Revolution is best if you are a skilled xTalk (AppleScript) developer. It can do some amazing things, especially the Web-based version -- which is free. 

Just sad to see Apple take the "our way or no way" on compilers. 

- CSW