phil said: > This just isn't possible on Apple's G3 Powerbooks at present, > although it's coming on the next generation. maybe i didn't explain myself clearly. what i want _is_ possible. i know it. i've already worked up a crude version. i just want a more elegant way. i can flowchart it quite easily. 1. write to 640*480 screen. 2. schlep to gworld. 3. schlep back to 1024*768 screen. my crude non-gworld version has step #2 as 2a. picture on 2b. set invalrect to whole window 2c. window fill 2d. picture off (i.e., a q-n-d screen dump of the window to a pict& handle) -bowerbird