-bowerbird >1. i think we should create a default p.g. project >as our initial starting point, if staz says it's ok. Considering that we all have PGPro, I don't think that STAZ would object, provided we do things as include files. --- >2. then we begin pooling the specialized functions >each of us contributes that do various things. Again, just specialized include files. Each file could have a list of self contained functions designed for a specific purpose. These files, when added to someone else's program, simply provides new function's. If the include files require Globals, then those could be listed as well as the include's global file. --- >3. next, examination of these pooled functions will >give us an idea of our combined capabilities. It might be nice to pose topics and divide people into groups based upon their interest. However, I usually find that people will take on a project "once" and then burn out. So, I think it important to keep the scope of the include files limited to a very simple idea. The simpler the better. --- >4. after that, it should be a >relatively simple task to >turn those capabilities >into some kind of useful program. It would be very easy to add functions via include files. --- >the kind of app i have in mind would be a >swiss-army-knife type utility program >so adding new widgets to the thing would be >as simple as dropping in the new functions. Exactly! Provided that we have a list of include files and what they do. -- >even if we start with something simple >-- perhaps staz's file-viewer code -- >the combined creativity of this list >could just churn out functions to build >a dynamite application _very_quickly_. > >if we begin with tedd's sort routines, >we might even finish before we start. :+) LOL. You know I had to stop working on that sort program. Every time I work on it, it got faster. I was afraid that if I worked any more on it, it would go back in time (old joke). Seriously, though. My sort routine is something that could be adapted as an include file. As such, one need only place the items into an INDEX array and they would be sorted. However, if one simply uses PGPro, then you already have a sort routine that does that. In fact, I think that you will find that many of the things we talk about here, are already covered under PGPro. That was my main reason for switching over to PGPro in the first place. Not only did it give me more functions to use, but I learned a lot about programming methods by studying the master. tedd ___________________________________________________________________ <mailto:tedd@...> http://sperling.com/