David, I do not think it is the correct one, but again, this is a minor point. You will see in another post that I have studied this very extensively under some of the top theologians in that field. While this is not a major issue, I do believe good churches and brothers can disagree on this issue. For the record, I held to this view until 2001/2002 and the vast majority of my Christian experience. This was what was exclusively taught to me in Seminary. Thus, I hold to a contrary point of view despite all my formal studies. ------------------------------------ Wallers Baptist Church Pastor derick@... PO Box 95 Partlow VA 22534 tel: 540-582-5703 mobile: 540-894-1772 www.thedickensfamily.org ------------------------------------ > -----Original Message----- > From: Pastor David Warner [mailto:dwarner@...] > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:02 PM > To: pastorsforum@... > Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] 2nd Coming of Christ > > > Derick, > Truth is not always popular so popularity is not a good > measure of truth. You should do some more research on Darby > and Pretrib. I don't think it is a fundamental belief but the > correct one none the less. David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Derick Dickens [mailto:Derick@...] > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 3:01 PM > To: pastorsforum@... > Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] 2nd Coming of Christ > > > David, > > I think there is a radical different measure when referring > to Innerancy than to the Pre-trib/Pre-mil position. I would > list innerancy as a core belief that all Christian churches > must hold onto. The Pre-trib/Pre-mil did not really come > into popularity until the 1800's and some of the views people > say was similar before that was radically different than the > view being supported by Darby and later Dallas and other > groups. Would you list the pre-trib/pre-mil position as a > core of the Faith? I wouldn't list that but I would list > that Christ will literally return as a core. I would also > list innerancy as a core. > > Derick > > ------------------------------------ > Wallers Baptist Church > Pastor > derick@... > PO Box 95 > Partlow VA 22534 > tel: 540-582-5703 > mobile: 540-894-1772 > www.thedickensfamily.org > ------------------------------------ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pastor David Warner [mailto:dwarner@...] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:46 PM > > To: pastorsforum@... > > Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] 2nd Coming of Christ > > > > > > Yep. I can believe there are some churches that would reject a > > preacher for this. Did you also know there are some churches that > > would reject a preacher for denying the inspiration of Scripture > > THEORY as well? I wonder if they are the same churches. As a > > preacher, I might reject a church first for their THEORY about my > > THEORY. If course, I'm just theorizing a bit here. Probably would > > never happen. David > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jerry [mailto:jelewis@...] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:32 PM > > To: pastorsforum@... > > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] 2nd Coming of Christ > > > > > > The popular idea is that Christ will come in the clouds to call His > > church to Him and then, 7 years later, at the end of the Great > > Tribulation, He will come and step foot on the earth. > > > > Amazingly, there are some churches who will reject a preacher from > > consideration if he does not hold to this pre-trib rapture THEORY. > > > > Jerry > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steven G. Rockhill" <revrock@...> > > To: <pastorsforum@...> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:52 AM > > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] 2nd Coming of Christ > > > > > > > No, I believe Christ will return in the Clouds and in power > > and glory > > > - but my point was - He is just coming 1 more time. Some > > folks like > > > to think that he is coming a few times more - one often > > being just no > > > further than the clouds which they say is not really a > > 'coming'. But > > > when He comes - He will Come and that is it. 2nd Coming, > > Resurrection > > > of the Dead, gathering of the elect and judgment all at the same > > > appointed time. > > > > > > Peace, > > > Steve > > > > > > Jeff Hallmark wrote: > > > > > > > So do you or don't you believe Christ is coming in the clouds? > > > > > > > > Acts 1:9-11 > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>I believe that Christ will come a 2nd time (but not a > 3rd, 4th or > > > >>5th time - even if it is just partial i.e. in the > > clouds). When He > > > >>comes - He comes and that is it. > > > >> > > > >>Peace, > > > >>Steve > > > >> > > > >>Jeff Hallmark wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>Greetings, > > > >>> > > > >>>Bro. Derick had written -For the record, I am not a > > > >>>pre-trib/pre-mil but I an interrested in others take on > > this. So > > > >>>Bro. Derick what do you believe concerning the Second > Coming of > > > >>>Jesus Christ? > > > >>> > > > >>>Jeff > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > > pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > > > > > "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, > > liberty; and in > > > all > > things, charity." > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > > pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > > > "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, > liberty; and in > > all things, charity." > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > > pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > > > "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, > liberty; and in > > all things, charity." > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, > liberty; and in all things, charity." > > -- > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, > liberty; and in all things, charity." > >