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From: "Steven G. Rockhill" <revrock@...>
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:58:12 -0400
They changed your article?  Every since jok I find the whole emerging 
church thing a little fascinating.  Not because I am for it but just the 
sociological phenomena that it is (or is trying to be).

Peace,
Steve

Derick Dickens wrote:

> Steve,
> 
> No, this was for LifeWay :)
> 
> I wish I was joking, but it is the truth :)  Believe it or not, it
> actually changed something at LifeWay, they saw some stuff that looked
> wrong, though it was not wrong, and they changed it.
> 
> Derick
> 
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Steven G. Rockhill [mailto:revrock@...] 
>>Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:06 PM
>>To: pastorsforum@...
>>Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Lifeway 
>>
>>
>>Derick,
>>   Is this article on your site - I did a search and couldn't 
>>find it - 
>>could you send me the link.
>>
>>Steve
>>
>>Derick Dickens wrote:
>>
>>>David,
>>> 
>>>I wrote an article against the Emergent Church movement.  
>>
>>Someone went
>>
>>>to my bookstore searched and found a couple of those 
>>
>>authors and then 
>>
>>>blasted me for my "support" and "hypocrisy".  My response 
>>
>>was simple.  
>>
>>>Of the hundreds of thousands of titles out there that I can 
>>
>>"ban" I have 
>>
>>>banned around 50,000 titles.  Of the rest, I expect people to use 
>>>discernment in what they read.  Some of the material I 
>>
>>refuse to ban 
>>
>>>because they are good to help us understand other viewpoints.  Some 
>>>titles I have not banned are because they have passed my 
>>
>>watchful eye, 
>>
>>>others because I believe it is good to be able to get that 
>>
>>book somewhere.
>>
>>> 
>>>On that, the SBC is very clear on the Catholic issue as I am on the
>>>Emergent Church issue.
>>> 
>>>Derick
>>> 
>>> 
>>>Derick Dickens 	<http://www.thedickensfamily.org/>
>>>
>>>	
>>>Pastor 	Wallers Baptist Church
>>>PO Box 95
>>>Partlow VA 22534
>>>
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>>>    -----Original Message-----
>>>    From: Pastor David Warner [mailto:dwarner@...]
>>>    Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 12:24 PM
>>>    To: pastorsforum@...
>>>    Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] Lifeway
>>>
>>>    All of these books, which are available from LifeWay, speak of
>>>    Mother Teresa as a model and example of love, 
>>
>>godliness, and virtue
>>
>>>    that ought to be followed by all Christians.  Isn't 
>>
>>that ashamed!
>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>
>>>          David Warner
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     From the book:
>>>
>>>
>>>      To a Daughter Turning 10
>>>
>>>    Written by Erich Bridges
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>    You inherited a love of reading from Grandma. Nancy 
>>
>>Drew mysteries
>>
>>>    and "American Girl" books will soon fall by the 
>>
>>wayside, but make
>>
>>>    the Word of God your daily companion. And don't forget the
>>>    biographies you've read about women of God: Lottie Moon, Amy
>>>    Carmichael, Gloria Thurman, Mother Teresa and others. 
>>
>>Many of the
>>
>>>    greatest missionaries first heard God's gentle call at your age.
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     From the book:
>>>
>>>
>>>      God Is the Key to Your Teen's Healthy Self-Esteem
>>>
>>>    by Cecil O. Kemp
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>    Share How Service Fulfills and Satisfies.
>>>
>>>    Consider this example:
>>>    Once, during her daily rounds in the city of Calcutta, 
>>
>>Mother Teresa
>>
>>>    found a dying woman in the street. Her body was 
>>
>>infested with worms,
>>
>>>    and she suffered from a gangrenous leg that had obviously been
>>>    gnawed by rats. She picked the woman up and carried her 
>>
>>back to the
>>
>>>    Home for the Dying and for the Abandoned. There she 
>>
>>bathed the woman
>>
>>>    in warm water and put her into a warm and clean bed.
>>>
>>>    As she fought for her life, the dying woman told Mother 
>>
>>Teresa that
>>
>>>    she had lived "like an animal on the streets," had never enjoyed
>>>    such fine accommodations and could now die like a human being,
>>>    surrounded by love.
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     From the book:
>>>
>>>    Parents Again
>>>
>>>    by Dr. Timothy Clinton
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>    Love
>>>    In addition to basic physical needs, infants need love. 
>>
>>So cuddle
>>
>>>    your grandchild. Talk to him. Smile, laugh, and enjoy 
>>
>>him. Make eye
>>
>>>    contact frequently. These are all ways you can 
>>
>>communicate with your
>>
>>>    grandson and show him he is valued and loved. Mother Teresa once
>>>    said, "The biggest disease today is not leprosy or 
>>
>>tuberculosis, but
>>
>>>    rather the feeling of being unwanted, uncared for, and 
>>
>>deserted by
>>
>>>    everybody. The greatest evil is the lack of love."2 Never
>>>    underestimate the power of love in your grandson's life.
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     From the book:
>>>
>>>
>>>      Resurrecting Christmas: 12 Days Of Celebrating God's Way
>>>
>>>    by Patrick Borders
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>    Serve the homeless. "And she wrapped Him snugly in 
>>
>>cloth and laid
>>
>>>    Him in a manger - because there was no room for them at the inn"
>>>    (Luke 2:7). Mother Teresa once said that to serve the 
>>
>>homeless was
>>
>>>    to serve the living Christ. (See Matthew 25:40.) Serve 
>>
>>the homeless
>>
>>>    this day by helping out in a shelter or soup kitchen.
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     From the book:
>>>
>>>
>>>      10 Questions for the Atheist
>>>
>>>    by Scott Pruett
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>    Morality
>>>    Another transcendent entity that is a problem for atheism is
>>>    morality.  With no divine author or judge there is no reason to
>>>    think that there should be any moral laws that we are obliged to
>>>    recognize and keep, except for self-serving reasons.  And yet,
>>>    morality aligns with our deepest intuitions: we expect others to
>>>    recognize it; we urge our kids to exercise it; 
>>
>>therapists get rich
>>
>>>    repairing the effects of its abuse; we judge criminals insane if
>>>    they do not recognize it; and all cultures affirm it in common
>>>    principle if not in individual application.
>>>    Do you deny objective morality; that the difference 
>>
>>between Mother
>>
>>>    Teresa and Hitler is not just a matter of preference, 
>>
>>like chocolate
>>
>>>    vs. vanilla ice cream?  If not, then how do you ground 
>>
>>morality; how
>>
>>>    do you explain where it came from and why we ought to be moral 
>>>tomorrow?
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     From the book:
>>>
>>>
>>>      The Power of One
>>>
>>>    by Michael D. Warden
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>    When my friend Joel Vestal was 19, he took a trip to 
>>
>>India to visit
>>
>>>    a missionary friend of his, a fellow named Albert Das who had
>>>    devoted his life to planting new churches in northern 
>>
>>Bihar. While
>>
>>>    Joel was there, he had the opportunity to meet Mother 
>>
>>Teresa - an
>>
>>>    encounter he often refers to as a defining moment in his young 
>>>life.
>>>
>>>    By the time he returned to the States, Joel's heart had been
>>>    transformed. Abandoning his personal ambitions, he launched a
>>>    nonprofit organization designed to multiply the church 
>>
>>around the 
>>
>>>world.
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     From the book:
>>>
>>>    Faith Reborn
>>>
>>>    by Brian McLaren
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>
>>>        The Personal Drama
>>>
>>>    The historical reality of the Easter story doesn't make 
>>
>>it merely
>>
>>>    "objectively true." The Easter story is also amazingly personal.
>>>
>>>    And the stories aren't limited to the pages of the Bible. The
>>>    stories have been unfolding for 2000 years: from Mother Teresa
>>>    holding a dying old man in Calcutta to C.S. Lewis 
>>
>>writing majestic
>>
>>>    fiction in his Oxford cottage; from teenagers on a short-term
>>>    mission building homes for the poor in Guatemala to 
>>
>>martyrs facing
>>
>>>    imprisonment and torture; from Handel scribbling notes 
>>
>>that would
>>
>>>    become "The Messiah" to a Sunday School teacher 
>>
>>preparing a lesson
>>
>>>    for the 5-year-olds she loves. The amazing drama of Easter has
>>>    inspired courage, heroism, love, sacrifice, artistic creativity,
>>>    strength and gentleness. What a different place the 
>>
>>world is because
>>
>>>    of these thousands of stories inspired by the Story
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     
>>>
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>>liberty; and in 
>>
>>>all things, charity."
>>>
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>>
>>>all things, charity."
>>>
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