I think the issue was that wine fermented too soon. So, he found a way to keep it from fermenting. Otherwise, wine had to be use rather soon after pressing or it would be unfit to use. He came up with a solution. DW -----Original Message----- From: Steven G. Rockhill [mailto:revrock@...] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:21 AM To: pastorsforum@... Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] THE WINE ISSUE OKay this is very interesting and I have just 1 question: What do you suppose Mr. Welch used at his church's communion service in 1868 (and many years before that)? Couldn't have been 'unfermented wine' as he made the 'first bottles' in 1869. Hmmmmmm. Kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it. The use of grape juice or unfermented wine in communion is a relatively recent practice (since 1869 most likely). Peace, steve Pastor David Warner wrote: > This is from Welch's official website. > > The modern-day fruit juice industry actually got its start in 1869 in > the Vineland, N.J., home of Dr. Thomas Bramwell Welch, where he and his > son Charles processed the first bottles of "unfermented wine" for use > with the communion service at their church. > > Notice the term "unfermented wine" > > 1869 Dr. Thomas Bramwell Welch, a physician and dentist by profession, > successfully pasteurizes Concord grape juice to produce an "unfermented > sacramental wine" for fellow parishioners at his church in Vineland, > N.J., where he is communion steward. His achievement marks the beginning > of the processed fruit juice industry. > > -- To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, liberty; and in all things, charity."