Bro. Steve, just a few questions, Was God sovereign when satan rebellion? Would that make God an ineffective god? Jeff > > Mickey, > Though I don't believe there will be any 'ruptured' saints :-) > this has always been my question and one of the reasons why I do > not believe that the millenium is a literal 1,000 years. If Christ > is King and actively reigning over his people - how can there be a > rebellion? How can the lion lay down with the lamb if there is no > peace? For if there is no peace and rebellion is possible then > that means sin has not been dealt with. Does Christ not have any > power over sin as he reigns in His Kingdom? It seems to me that > it would make Him a rather ineffective King? Just some thoughts, > Steve > > mickey28173 wrote: > > > > Jeff I agree with us on the millennium. There are two question > > that I have that I have never been able to understand about the > > millennium. Those that are living on earth during the millennium > > at those who did not receive the mark of the beast, (living; dead > > or both) and the ruptured saints. WHY WILL THE DEVIL BE SET FREE > > TO DECEIVE THESE, AND LEAD THEM AGAINST THE LORD? When a person > > is saved be before or during the tribulation will they not be > > saved forever or can the Lord not keep those that are saved; > > after the tribulation? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jeff Hallmark <mailto:bc_preacher@...> > > To: pastorsforum@... <mailto:pastorsforum@...> > > Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 1:48 AM > > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] understand the Millennium. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gentlemen, > > > > Please help me to understand the Millennium. > > > > What is the Scriptural basis for the Millennium? > > > > > > Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of > > the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. > > > > Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is > > the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years. > > > > Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and > > set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, > > till the thousand years should be fulfilled; and after that he must > > be loosed a little season. > > > > Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was > > given to them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for > > the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and who had not > > worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his > > mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and > > reigned with Christ a thousand years. > > > > Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand > > years were finished. This is the first resurrection. > > > > Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first > > resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall > > be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand > > years. > > > > > > > > When will it begin? > > > > At the end of the tribulation period, Rev. 19:11 > > > > Where is the Devil? Will he be allowed to harass people? > > > > Bottomless pit v. 2 above > > > > > > Who will be living on the earth at that time? > > > > Those who comes thru the tribulation, interesting there will be > > people living 1,000 years. Is this possible, yes how long did men > > live before the flood. We who return with Christ. > > Are they born again? > > > > I am > > > > How does this period end? > > > > > > Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years have expired, Satan shall be > > loosed from his prison, > > > > Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the > > four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them to battle: > > the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. > > > > Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and > > encompassed the camp of the saints, and the beloved city: and fire > > came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. > > > > Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of > > fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and > > shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, liberty; and > in all things, charity." -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com