Jeff Hallmark wrote: > > > Bro. Steve, > > why didn't Jesus just preach "systematic expository preaching" ? Here are some examples of Him doing just that: Luke 4:17-22 Luke 24:27,32 and vs. 44-48 - note here all the OT Speaks of Jesus > > Did not say there was no doctrine, just more devotional. Then re-read your post .... qoute: > But very little doctrine in the Psalms. There is more than just a little. > > All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitalbe for > doctrine... etc... > AMEN - emphasis on "All". Peace, Steve > Jeff > > > > > > Jeff, > > If you can't find doctrine in the Psalms then I would encourage > > you to re-read them (and better yet, sing them regularly). In the > > psalms we find our original state, our helplessness to save our > > selves, the grace and mercy of God available to us through the > > suffering, death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, > > salvation, repentance, confession of sin, perseverance of the > > saints and the eschatological coming of Christ and our glorious > > future in Him, and judgment and condemnation for the wicked. And > > this is just a small sampling. > > > > As far as systematic expository preaching - it really is the only > > way to be sure the people receive the "whole counsel" of God and > > not just pet doctrines or distinctives. Interestingly too, you get > > the same "whole counsel" of God when you sing the Psalms and not > > just the feel good old favorite Hymns. Jesus wrote them (via the > > Spirit), they are about Him and He sang them - why shouldn't we. > > > > Peace, > > Steve > > > > Jeff Hallmark wrote: > > > Bro. Steve, I agree with most of what you have to say here. > > > > > > That is why there is a need for Sunday School, Sunday Morning > > > Preaching Services, Training Union, Sunday Evening Preaching > > > Services and Mid-Week Bible Study and Prayer Time. Also add time > > > for Visitation and Soul winning, give folks an opportunity to > > > learn and serve others. > > > > > > Now do all of our folks make every opportunity, NO. But it is > > > still there for them. However, I am called into full time > > > service, and I am there to teach, preach, pray and learn. > > > > > > > > > > > Jeff, > > > > In Reformed Presbyterian circles folks used to preach on the RP > > > > 'distinctives'. This was not all bad, but it was not all good > > > > either. The problem was that the 'distinctives' were preached on > > > > constantly and soon became detached from Scripture and there was > > > > very little Gospel and Bible instruction. Then the 'distinctives' > > > > were seen as traditions of men rather than Biblical principles. > > > > Fortunately, by God's grace there has been a reformation in our > > > > churches in the last 60 years and the traditionalism is on the way > > > > out and the Gospel of Christ is on the way in - though we still > > > > have distinctives. > > > > > > Personal Soul winning and visitation will help reach the lost. > > > > > > If your "distinctives" are truly Biblically > > > > based they will come out as you preach and teach systematically > > > > (book by book, verse by verse) through the Bible (not the only way > > > > to preach, but I believe the best way). e.g. > > > > > > Good way but not the only way, did Jesus preach and teach, this > > > way all the time? > > > > > > Our Sunday evening Preaching Service I am doing just this verse > > > by verse thru II Thess. > > > > > > I believe the > > > > Scriptures teach that we are to exclusively use the Psalms for > > > > God's praise in Worship. I don't preach on psalmody every week and > > > > pound it in peoples heads but when I come upon a passage that > > > > teaches this doctrine - I preach it heartily. Other times I preach > > > > > > To me, Psalm is more devotional then doctrinal. Psalm helps me, > > > and those I preach and teach to keep our hearts warm and tender > > > to the things of God. But very little doctrine in the Psalms. > > > Same with Proverbs, great for character building. But one can > > > have great character and still die and go to hell. > > > > > > I still preach and teach Psalms and Proverbs > > > > > > > the Bible Text that is before me (without any set 'distinctive' > > > > agenda) knowing that the Spirit will pierce the Word into the > > > > hearts of those who have ears to hear. And as the people grow in > > > > the knowledge and truth of the Word they will see the truth of the > > > > doctrines or distinctives for themselves. That is, if your > > > > particular 'distinctives' are truly biblically based. > > > > > > Again, having a number of teaching and preaching service sure > > > help our folks to grow in grace and in the knowledge of Jesus > > > Christ. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peace, > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > Jeff Hallmark wrote: > > > > > > > > > NOTE the Quote is from an old time Southern Baptist. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > > > "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, liberty; and > > in all things, charity." > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites > at once. > http://datingsearch.lycos.com > -- To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... 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