Derick,
How does your committee arrive at its final figure for each item? Our
process is similar to yours. Our Budget Committee Chairman requesting each
department head and committee to submit itemized budget requests. From
these , only the total is listed in the church budget for approval except
for a few additional line items the Trustees submit. With these requests in
hand the meeting to formulate the budget usually takes one meeting lasting
at longest 2 hours.
The budget is then presented to the church for adoption. In 13 years I do
not recall a major amendment except the year medical insurance increased
substantially. The amendment was for the church to pay 100% of the increase
instead of the smaller amount I had suggested.
We work from the philosophy that the budget is not just a guideline for
expenditures. Church approval of the budget authorizes department heads
and committees to expend the funds approved within budget guidelines. The
church council meeting begins with a report update of expenditures and
quarterly the council receives a budget update. There is close coordination
between the budget committee chairman and those responsible for
expenditures. Cooperation and team mentality is essential.
Dean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Derick Dickens" <Derick@...>
To: <pastorsforum@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] Yeah, simpler meetings.
Got it. Here is our budget online that can be downloaded on an excel
worksheet at:
http://www.thedickensfamily.org/family/budget.htm
I kept the numbers in it... We have nothing to hide except my own salary
(which is my total package). But, sometimes seeing what others place in
where is helpful. I know another church that I have used their
resources for just that reason. It is my opinion that our missions are
too low and staffing is too high. But here it is.
Derick
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Pastor
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PO Box 95
Partlow VA 22534
tel: 540-582-5703
mobile: 540-894-1772
www.thedickensfamily.org
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pastor Franklin J. Senters [mailto:fjsenters@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:10 AM
> To: pastorsforum@...; pastormail@...
> Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] Yeah, simpler meetings.
>
>
> Could we possible see the outline of the budget proposal
>
> From 5 pages to 2 pages.
>
> The numbers are not important, but the format might be very valuable.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pastor Franklin J. Senters
> Hebrews 2:12
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Derick Dickens [mailto:Derick@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:23 PM
> To: pastormail@...; pastorsforum@...
> Subject: [PastorsForum] Yeah, simpler meetings.
>
> We had our Annual Stewardship meeting tonight. What
> traditionally has taken 2-3 meetings more than 2 hours at a
> time, I was able to cut it to one 1 1/2 hour meeting. We
> made our budget go from 5 pages to 2 pages. If you can make
> your budget process simpler it would be worth it. Also, go
> into the meetings with an idea of what needs to be done and
> provide a basic outline of a possible proposed budget letting
> everyone know that anything can be changed. This is one
> change that I have made where I made everyone happy and glad
> that I was the Pastor.
>
> Derick
>
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> www.thedickensfamily.org
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