up in sac - folsom - in northen cal :)

is this the "iggy" i knew from postmodern theology
group?

pax
jok

--- iggy <iggy@...> wrote:
> Welcome!!!!
> 
> Were in Californication are you? (RHCP inside joke)
> 
> I just moved from Monterey area to Billings a while
> ago. Out there I was
> ultra conservative, Here I'm almost a liberal!
> hahahah! It will be good to
> have some one else take some of the heat that I have
> been while on the forum
>  Everyone is great, don't take anyone to serious if
> they go after you. You
> will learn much in the discussions here.  
> 
> You sound a bit unorthadox (no opun intended) yet,
> we try things we learn,
> we grow.
> One church I went to the singles would record
> "Friends" and watch it after
> their Bible study. You know what? PEOPLE SHOWED
> UP!!!
> 
> Living in the land where you plug your car in so it
> will start in the
> morning,
> 
> iggy 
> 
> 
>  
>  
> -------Original Message-------
>  
> From: pastorsforum@...
> Date: 01/29/04 14:32:55
> To: pastorsforum@...
> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Gods teachings on
> tattoos/piercings
>  
> actually, if you keep reading it says, "for the dead
> or other gods."
>  
> also - scripture many times calls for a "slave to
> put
> his ear to the door and peirce."  God says that he
> will "tattoo His name" on our hands - the word is
> the
> same as in lev.
>  
> more so, do you cut your beard?  do you shave the
> sides of your hair?  just a few lines up God says
> not
> to - :)  just wondering
>  
> pax
> jok
>  
>  
> --- Pastor Hughes <embc@...> wrote:
> > John Okeefe wrote:
> >
> > ; i like "altarative music" and
> > that is way out in many churhces; i have a tattoo
> > and
> > both my ears are peireced (with gage) - none of
> that
> > is against God's teachings, but many churches
> would
> > not accpet me for my outside look - never gettign
> to
> > know that inside i am a follower of the one true
> God
> > -
> >
> > Word of Caution.....the article and info below is
> > not off
> > of ginkworld and is very conservative ....
> > please read with extreme caution...as tatoo
> removal]
> > is costly and can be somewhat painful....  :)
> >
> >
> > heres a few thoughts on the above subject ENJOY
> >
> >       WHAT ABOUT LEVITICUS 19:28?
> >
> >       Leviticus 19:28 is the Christian (or
> so-called
> > Christian?) tattooist and tattoo-bearer's worst
> > nightmare. The Lord plainly, clearly, strongly,
> and
> > without a doubt - condemns the tattoo.
> >
> >         Ye shall not make any cuttings in your
> flesh
> > for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am
> the
> > LORD.
> >         Leviticus 19:28
> >
> >       Could that be any more clear?
> >
> >       "Ye shall not. . .print any marks upon you.
> .
> > ."
> >
> >       Simple. . . Straightforward. . .Settled. . .
> >
> >       God Said It. . . I Believe It. . . That
> > Settles It. . .
> >
> >       Right. . .?
> >
> >       Not hardly. . .
> >
> >       The clear statement from the word of God
> does
> > not settle anything for this generation of
> > disobedient, carnal, worldy, tolerant,
> > non-judgmental, Christians. Rather than obey God,
> > they run miles and miles and miles to "justify"
> > their open disobedience to the Word of God.
> >
> >       How do they get around Leviticus 19:28?
> >
> >       Clearly, there it is. "Ye shall not. .
> .print
> > any marks upon you. . ."
> >
> >       A lot of Christians when confronted with
> > Leviticus 19:28, scream, "Hey dude, that's not for
> > today. Man, that's the Old Testament. I'm under
> the
> > New Testament".
> >
> >       Did you know that "bestiality" (sicko,
> > perverted, sex with an animal) was ONLY forbidden
> in
> > the Old Testament Levitical Law? Only in Leviticus
> > 18:23 and Leviticus 20:15-16. Dude, only in the
> Old
> > Testament Law. Does that mean a Holy God NOW -
> under
> > the New Testament, approves of bestiality?
> >
> >       By the way, have you ever read Leviticus
> > 19:29? The verse immediately AFTER the "it's not
> for
> > me" Leviticus 19:28?
> >
> >         Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause
> her
> > to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and
> > the land become full of wickedness.
> >         Leviticus 19:29
> >
> >       This is the only place in the Bible that God
> > directly forbids someone to prostitute their
> > daughter. And since, it's ONLY in the Old
> Testament
> > Levitical Law (and "hey, dude, we're NOT under the
> > law") - it MUST be ok by the Lord for a parent to
> > cause their daughter to prostitute.
> >
> >       Same sick, perverted, wicked, line of
> > reasoning as the "it's ONLY in the Old
> > Testament-tattoo-bearer-wearer". Same reasoning. .
> .
> > Same disobedience. . . Same perversion of the Word
> > of God.
> >
> >       There are many other "moral laws' that are
> > ONLY forbidden in the Old Testament, such as the
> > human sacrifice of children. No where in the New
> > Testament is this forbidden. Does that mean that
> NOW
> > under the New Testament, God Almighty endorses
> > throwing babies into the fire as a human
> sacrifice?
> >
> >         And thou shalt not let any of thy seed
> pass
> > through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou
> > profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.
> >         Leviticus 18:21
> >
> >       Matthew Henry's Commentary at the beginning
> of
> > Leviticus 19 explains that most of Leviticus 19
> > (such as verse 19:28) are moral commandments that
> > applies not only for Israel but for the New
> > Testament Christian today.
> >
> >         "Some ceremonial precepts there are in
> this
> > chapter, but most of them are moral. . . Most of
> > these precepts are binding on us, for they are
> > expositions of most of the ten commandments."
> >         (Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole
> > Bible, Leviticus 19:28)
> >
> >       IT'S ONLY "FOR THE DEAD"
> >
> >       But by far the Christian tattooers favorite
> > excuse for disobeying Leviticus 19:28 is the "that
> > means nor print any marks upon you - for the
> DEAD".
> > It's ok, as long it's not for the dead". See the
> > "for the dead!!! . .for the dead!!!!".
> >
> >       Is it ok to practice satanic bloodletting,
> > self mutilation or cutting of the flesh as long as
> > it's not for the dead? It's in the same verse. . .
> > Hmmm. . .?
> >
> >         Ye shall not make any cuttings in your
> flesh
> > for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am
> the
> > LORD.
> >         Leviticus 19:28
> >
> >       Notice also, the phrase "for the dead" is
> ONLY
> > referencing the "cuttings in your flesh". The
> > condemnation of "nor print ANY marks upon you" is
> > not qualified by the phrase "for the dead". Also,
> if
> > you'll notice the verse clearly says "ANY marks"
> > period.
> >
> >       Merrill F. Unger's, very popular and
> > authoritative, Unger's Bible Dictionary under the
> > definition for "Mark" includes the following
> > reference for Leviticus 19:28:
> >
> >         "In Lev. 19:28 we find two prohibitions of
> > an unnatural disfigurement of the body: 'Ye shall
> > not make any cutting in your flesh for the dead,
> nor
> > any print any marks upon you.' The latter (Heb. qa
> > aqa, incision) refers to tattooing, and has no
> > reference to idolatrous usages, but was intended
> to
> > inculcate upon the Israelietes a proper reverence
> > for God's creation."
> >         (Merrill F. Unger, Unger's Bible
> Dictionary,
> > 1974 ed., p. 696)
> >
> >       Notice that Unger teaches that tattoos were
> > forbidden without any reference to pagan, heathen,
> > or idolatrous usages. In other words, the tattoo
> > itself, regardless the reason, was forbidden.
> Amen.
> > Brother Unger.
> >
> >       Wycliffe's Bible Encyclopedia under the
> > definition for TATTOOING distinctly says:
> >
> >         "While 'cuttings in the flesh' have
> > reference here to mourning customs [for the dead],
> > the tattooing does not appear to pertain to such
> > practice."
> >         (Wycliffe Bible Encyclopedia, 1975 ed., p.
> > 1664)
> >
> >       The New American Commentary on Leviticus
> 19:28
> > writes the condemnation was for, "cutting the body
> > either for the dead or with tattoo marks." (Mark
> F.
> > Rooker, The New American Commentary on Leviticus,
> > 2000 ed., p. 262) Explicitly recognizing the
> tattoo
> > was not "for the dead."
> >
> >       Do you see how dishonest and disobedient
> this
> > "it doesn't apply to my
> > New-Testament-Christian-marked-for-Jesus-tattoo"
> is?
> > Find what you don't like in the Word of God, cut
> it
> > out (doesn't apply to New Testament Christians) or
> > misapply (it's just for the DEAD, when it's
> clearly
> > NOT). Same tactics used by the satanic cults and
> > heretics for years. You can prove anything and
> > everything with such deceitful methods.
> >
> >       THE "FORBIDDEN" HAIRCUT
> >
> >       One of the silliest and childish arguments
> to
> > justify the Christian tattoo is the: "Hey man, do
> > you get a haircut or trim your beard? God
> condemned
> > getting a haircut or trimming your beard in the
> > verse before forbidding the tattoo. Dude, the
> tattoo
> > is the same as getting a haircut."
> >
> >       Believe it or not . . . this is a widely
> used
> > argument.
> >
> >       Leviticus 19:26-28 is a clear condemnation
> of
> > pagan, witchcraft and heathen practices. Look at
> the
> > context. Verse 26 is plainly referring to
> > "enchantment [spells or witchcraft] nor observe
> > times [astrology]. . . Verse 28 is the pagan,
> > demonic practice of bloodletting [cuttings in your
> > flesh] and tattooing. Why would the Lord stick in
> > the middle a verse that "condemns simply getting a
> > haircut"? Of course, He wouldn't. . . And He
> didn't.
> > . .
> >
> >         Leviticus 19:26-28 reads:
> >         26 Ye shall not eat any thing with the
> > blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor
> observe
> > times.
> >         27 Ye shall not round the corners of your
> > heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy
> > beard.
> >         28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your
> > flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you:
> I
> > am the LORD.
> >
> >       The condemnation found in verse 27 of
> > "rounding the corners of your head" or "mar the
> > corners of thy beard" was the forbidding of a
> common
> > pagan practice that cut the hair as worship and
> > honor of the hosts of heaven.
> >
> >       Here's how Matthew Henry's and Coffman's
> > Commentaries reflect on the "forbidden haircut" of
> > Leviticus 19:27:
> >
> >         "Those that worshipped the hosts of
> heaven,
> > in honour of them, cut their hair so as that their
> > heads might resemble the celestial globe; but, as
> > the custom was foolish itself, so, being done with
> > respect to their false gods, it was idolatrous."
> > (Matthew Henry, Commentary on the Whole Bible,
> > Leviticus 19:27)
> >
> >         "Herodotus tells of the use of this type
> of
> > haircut, forming what is called a tonsure, as the
> > practice of pagan religious cults of ancient times
> > who did so honoring one of their gods."
> >         (Coffman Commentaries on the Old and New
> > Testament, Leviticus 19:27)
> >
> >       The fact is. . . Up until a few years ago,
> > virtually everyone, including the most liberal
> > Christian, KNEW the tattoo was clearly forbidden
> by
> > the Word of God. And throughout history, the
> tattoo
> > has ALWAYS been condemned by Bible Believing
> > Christians. Always. Every historical resource ever
> > written on tattoos clearly confirms this fact.
> >
> >         "Just as occurred in other cultures with
> > tattoo traditions, when these pagan tribes were
> > 'converted' to the Christian religion, their
> > spiritual and cultural rites (which included
> > tattooing, piercing and scarification) were
> > outlawed. . ."
> >         (Jean-Chris Miller, The Body Art Book : A
> > Complete, Illustrated Guide to Tattoos, Piercings,
> > and Other Body Modifications, p.9)
> >
> >         "Whenever missionaries encountered
> tattooing
> > they eradicated it."
> >         (Gilbert, Steve, Tattoo History: A Source
> > Book, p. 101)
> >
> >         "While these and other body modifications
> > continued to be practiced underground as a way for
> > non-Christian people to identify each other, God
> > forbid you got caught and your mark was revealed."
> >         (Jean-Chris Miller, The Body Art Book : A
> > Complete, Illustrated Guide to Tattoos, Piercings,
> > and Other Body Modifications, p.11)
> >
> >       Up until a few years, virtually every
> > commentary written understood Leviticus 19:28 as
> an
> > open condemnation of the tattoo. The Christian
> > acceptance of a tattoo was not even considered for
> > serious discussion.
> >
> >       Jameison-Faussett-Brown Commentary and
> > Explanatory on the Whole Bible writes under
> > Leviticus 19:28
> >
> >         "nor print any marks upon you-by
> tattooing,
> > imprinting figures of flowers, leaves, stars, and
> > other fanciful devices on various parts of their
> > person. The impression was made sometimes by means
> > of a hot iron, sometimes by ink or paint, as is
> done
> > by the Arab females of the present day and the
> > different castes of the Hindus. It it probable
> that
> > a strong propensity to adopt such marks in honor
> of
> > some idol gave occasion to the prohibition in this
> > verse; and they were wisely forbidden, for they
> were
> > signs of apostasy; and, when once made, they were
> > insuperable obstacles to a return."
> >         (Jameison-Faussett-Brown Commentary and
> > Explanatory on the Whole Bible, Leviticus 19:28)
> >
> >       James M. Freeman in his excellent book, The
> > New Manners & Customs of the Bible, says of
> > Leviticus 19:28:
> >
> >         "Tattooing Forbidden
> >         Both cutting and tattooing were done by
> the
> > heathens, and so God forbade His people from doing
> > so in imitation of them."
> >         (James M. Freeman, The New Manners &
> Customs
> > of the Bible, 1998 edition, p. 157)
> >
> >       Coffman's Commentary on the Old and New
> > Testament under Leviticus 19:18 says:
> >
> >         "The cutting of one's flesh also
> > characterized pagan worship as attested by the
> > priests of Baal on Mount Carmel in the contest
> with
> > Elijah. Tattooing was also a device of paganism. .
> .
> > Christians generally disapprove of tattooing,
> > despite the fact of the widespread use of it by
> many
> > even today. In the light of what God says here,
> and
> > in view of the history of it, it seems strange
> that
> > anyone would pay someone else to tattoo him."
> >         (Coffman's Commentaries on the Old and New
> > Testament, Leviticus 19:28)
> >
> >       Charles R. Erdman in his commentary on
> > Leviticus 19:28 writes:
> >
> >         "The custom of tattooing was forbidden,
> > while among all the nations of antiquity it was
> > common." (Charles R. Erdman, The Book of
> Leviticus,
> > 1951 ed., p.93)
> >
> >       But Naves famous Topical Bible puts it best.
> > Under the topic "Tattooing", Nave's simply and
> > bluntly writes: "TATTOOING, forbidden, Lev. 19;28"
> > (Nave's Topical Bible, p. 1312)
> >
> >       BUT WHAT ABOUT ISAIAH 44:5 & EZEKIEL 9:4?
> >
> >       I've seen several references by Christian
> > tattooers who claim Isaiah 44 and Ezekiel 9 are
> > examples of God-ordained tattoos in the Bible.
> >
> >         And the LORD said unto him, Go through the
> > midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem,
> > and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that
> > sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be
> > done in the midst thereof.
> >         Ezekiel 9:4
> >
> >         One shall say, I am the Lord's; and
> another
> > shall call himself by the name of Jacob; and
> another
> > shall subscribe with his hand unto the LORD, and
> > surname himself by the name of Israel.
> >         Isaiah 44:5
> >
> >       The following excellent explanation of
> Isaiah
> > 44:5 and Ezekiel 9:4 came from a Jewish web site:
> >
> >         1) In Leviticus 19:28 the term used is
> > "k'thoveth qa'aqa." "K'thoveth" means "writing or
> > inscription." "Qa'aqa" comes from a root whose
> > meaning is "to insert or to stick in." Together,
> > "writing that is stuck in"(see Rashi's commentary
> on
> > the verse). Jewish oral tradition explains that
> the
> > verse is talking about what we refer to today as
> > tattoos, i.e. scratching or piercing the skin and
> > filling it in with pigment.(see the tractate
> > "Makoth" 21a).
> >         2) Isaiah 44:5 uses the word "yichtov"
> which
> > means "will write" without the word "qa'a'qa" "to
> > insert or to stick in." Isaiah is not talking
> about
> > tattoos. What he is saying is "...and he will
> write
> > with his hand to the L-rd..." like someone who
> signs
> > a contract to express his utmost commitment and
> > obligation(see Metzudath David's commentary on the
> > verse).
> >
> >         3) Ezekiel 9:4 uses the word "tav" which
> > means "a mark or a sign." The man clothed with
> linen
> > is going to mark the foreheads of the righteous
> with
> > ink, not tattoo them!
> >
> >         Someone who read the verses (Isaiah 44:5
> and
> > Ezekiel 9:4) in the Hebrew original would never
> > dream that they are referring to tattoos.
> >        
> (www.geocities.com/mnlerner2000/let007.html,
> > used with permission)
> >
> >       THE "TATTOOED" LORD JESUS CHRIST. . .
> >
> >       Some Christian tattooers go so far as claim
> > that the Lord Jesus Christ has a tattoo!
> >
> >       Many Christian tattooers claim that when the
> > Lord Jesus Christ returns in Revelation chapter 19
> > on a horse - He has a tattoo on his thigh!
> >
> >         Revelation 19:11-16 says:
> >         11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a
> > white horse; and he that sat upon him was called
> > Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth
> > judge and make war.
> >         12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and
> on
> > his head were many crowns; and he had a name
> > written, that no man knew, but he himself.
> >         13 And he was clothed with a vesture
> dipped
> > in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
> >         14 And the armies which were in heaven
> > followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine
> > linen, white and clean.
> >         15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp
> sword,
> > that with it he should smite the nations: and he
> > shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he
> treadeth
> > the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of
> > Almighty God.
> >         16 And he hath on his vesture and on his
> > thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF
> > LORDS.
> >
> >
> >       I know you don't believe Christians can be
> > that deceived so here's the proof:
> >
> >         "And what of Christ Himself? Twice in
> > chapter 19, our Lord is depicted as having a name
> > written on Him (verses 12 and 16). As unthinkable
> as
> > it may be for some to picture our Lord Jesus as
> > having a tattoo, the author of the Apocalypse had
> no
> > problem with it."
> >         (www.larryoverton.com/berean/tatoos.htm)
> >
> >       Revelation 19:16 clearly is referring to the
> > "vesture his thigh" - ". . .he hath on his vesture
> > and on his thigh. . ."
> >
> >       Can anyone with any spiritual discernment
> (and
> > a brain) really believe the Lord Jesus Christ has
> a
> > tattoo? Isn't it amazing how spiritually blind
> > someone becomes when they began to justify their
> > disobedience to the Word of God?
> >
> >       But what really is frightening about this
> > gross, perverted, wicked interpretation of a
> > "tattooed" Jesus Christ in Revelation 19:16 - it
> > makes the Lord Jesus Christ a SINNER!
> >
> >       It means the Lord Jesus CLEARLY disobeyed
> > Leviticus 19:28! It means the Lord Jesus Christ
> was
> > not Holy! He was not the sinless, spotless Lamb of
> > God. He clearly was disobedient and broke the
> > Leviticual Law of Leviticus 19:28!
> >
> >       And if the Lord Jesus Christ committed sin -
> > everyone is either in hell or on the way to hell.
> > There is no salvation without a sinless, spotless
> > Lamb of God. It took a sinless, perfect, Saviour
> to
> > pay for your sins.
> >
> >       And thank God - despite what these
> spiritually
> > sicko, perverted, Christian tattooers "preach" -
> The
> > Lord Jesus Christ was without sin - and without
> > "tattoo"!
> >
> >         18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not
> > redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and
> > gold, from your vain conversation received by
> > tradition from your fathers;
> >         19 But with the precious blood of Christ,
> as
> > of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
> >         1 Peter 1:18-19
> >
> >         For we have not an high priest which
> cannot
> > be touched with the feeling of our infirmities;
> but
> > was in all points tempted like as we are, yet
> > without sin.
> >         Hebrews 4:15
> >
> >         For he hath made him to be sin for us, who
> > knew no sin; that we might be made the
> righteousness
> > of God in him.
> >         2 Corinthians 5:21
> >
> >         21 For even hereunto were ye called:
> because
> > Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an
> example,
> > that ye should follow his steps:
> >         22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found
> > in his mouth:
> >         1 Peter 2:21-22
> >
> >         4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth
> > also the law: for sin is the transgression of the
> > law.
> >         5 And ye know that he was manifested to
> take
> > away our sins; and in him is no sin.
> >         1 John 3:4-5
> >
> >       DEFILING THE TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD
> >
> >       Most Christians, even the most carnal and
> > backslidden, would never desecrate or defile the
> > local church building. Even among most lost people
> > there is a reverence and sacredness to the church
> > building.
> >
> >       But. . . Did you know?
> >
> >       If you are truly born again the Holy Spirit
> of
> > God dwells within in (John 14:17, Romans 8:9, 11)
> > and your body is the temple of God. 1 Corinthians
> > 6:19-20 makes this very clear.
> >
> >         19 What? know ye not that your body is the
> > temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye
> > have of God, and ye are not your own?
> >         20 For ye are bought with a price:
> therefore
> > glorify God in your body, and in your spirit,
> which
> > are God's.
> >         1 Corinthians 6:19-20
> >
> >       And . . . Did you know?
> >
> >       The Lord warns several times of the
> > seriousness of defiling the temple of God - your
> > body! In 1 Corinthians 3, the Lord clearly and
> > sternly warns against defiling your body - the
> > temple of God. If any man defiles the temple of
> God
> > - HIM SHALL GOD DESTROY!
> >
> >         16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of
> > God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
> >         17 If any man defile the temple of God,
> him
> > shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy,
> > which temple ye are.
> >         1 Corinthians 3:16-17
> >
> >       My Christian friend, you'd better watch what
> > you do with your body. It is the temple of a Holy
> > God. You'd better not defile it with pagan,
> > devil-worshipping tattoos!
> >
> >       ". . . If any man defile the temple of God,
> > him shall God destroy. . ."
> >
> >       What God said - He meant!
> >
> >         God is not a man, that he should lie;
> > neither the son of man, that he should repent:
> hath
> > he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he
> spoken,
> > and shall he not make it good?
> >         Numbers 23:19
> >
> >         7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for
> > whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
> >         8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of
> > the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to
> the
> > Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
> >         Galatians 6:7-8
> >
> >       Do you really believe the Lord Jesus Christ
> is
> > pleased with a Christian wearing a pagan tattoo?
> Do
> > you honestly believe God's perfect will is for a
> > Christian, any Christian, to be "marked" with a
> > demonic tattoo?
> >
> >       With the unbiased documentation and Bible
> > we've given (and we could supply much, much more)
> > there is no question to the pagan and
> > devil-worshipping source of the tattoo. Every
> tattoo
> > historian I've read, traces the root of the tattoo
> > to religious paganism. Every one.
> >
> >       2 Corinthians 6:14-17 is another warning
> > against the tattoo. Notice the warning against the
> > "fellowshipping" and concord with Christ and
> Belial
> > (the devil). Verse 16 is very interesting. . . As
> it
> > relates the "fellowshipping" with your body - the
> > temple of the living God.
> >
> >         2 Corinthians 6:14-17 reads:
> >         14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with
> > unbelievers: for what fellowship hath
> righteousness
> > with unrighteousness? and what communion hath
> light
> > with darkness?
> >         15 And what concord hath Christ with
> Belial?
> > or what part hath he that believeth with an
> infidel?
> >         16 And what agreement hath the temple of
> God
> > with idols? for ye are the temple of the living
> God;
> > as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk
> in
> > them; and I will be their God, and they shall be
> my
> > people.
> >         17 Wherefore come out from among them, and
> > be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the
> > unclean thing; and I will receive you,
> >       I realize in writing this, a lot of
> Christians
> > (or so-called Christians?) could care less what
> God
> > says. They're gonna do what they want to do -
> > despite heaven or hell. But there are many
> > Christians who want to serve God more than
> anything
> > - with ever fiber of their soul. I've talked to
> > many, many Christians who were thinking about
> > getting a tattoo. But after showing them the
> satanic
> > origin of the tattoo they realized a tattoo was
> not
> > the will of God. And it was for those "good and
> > faithful servants" of the Lord Jesus Christ that
> > this was written for.
> >
> >         His lord said unto him, Well done, good
> and
> > faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a
> few
> > things, I will make thee ruler over many things:
> > enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
> >         Matthew 25:23
> >
> >       Friend, God loves you and desires more than
> > anything you love and obey Him. He desires first
> of
> > all obedience unto salvation by receiving the Lord
> > Jesus Christ (John 1:12). And after salvation, His
> > will for you is to serve and love Him with all you
> > heart, body, mind and soul.
> >
> >       You won't regret it!
> >
> >       It'll be worth it one day!
> >
> >       If you are truly a Christian and still have
> > doubts about whether the tattoo is the perfect
> will
> > of God, go back through this article with an open
> > Bible and an open hear. Prayerfully, look up the
> > verses. And before you start, pray and ask the
> Holy
> > Spirit to "guide you into all truth" (John 16:13).
> >
> >         17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know
> > these things before, beware lest ye also, being
> led
> > away with the error of the wicked, fall from your
> > own stedfastness.
> >         18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge
> > of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be
> > glory both now and for ever. Amen.
> >         2 Peter 3:17-18
> >
> >
> >
> > HOpe you enjoyed this.....
> > sorry so long...but most of my posts are short
> > the above came off of bible believers.com
> >
> > Pastor Hughes
> > East Mesa Baptist Church
> > http://www.azboss.net/~embc/
> >
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