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From: "Jerry" <jelewis@...>
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 09:59:14 -0400
No, ... not Pentecostal.  .... I love and respect them as Christian 
brothers, ... but do not agree with many of their beliefs and practices.

Many Pentecostals tend toward Arminian beliefs, and I do not accept that as 
balanced theology in light of the whole Bible.  I do not  accept that one 
keeps his salvation by the way he lives, as some Pentecostals seem to 
believe, ... or that a person can lose his salvation and then later get 
saved again.  There is no example of that in the Bible.  Also, I have 
difficulty with some Pentecostal's teachings about entire sanctification.

But "yes" to Bible truths that religious tradition has robbed us of in the 
church today.

The Jesus of the New Testament is the Savior, Healer, Baptizer in the Holy 
Spirit, and soon coming King.

My KJB says that He is the Unchanging God, ... the same yesterday, today, 
and forever.  If He is the same, ... then He hasn't changed.  If He has 
changed, ... He isn't the same.

I believe that the Bible teaches that Jesus is still moved with compassion 
for the sick.  When believers today cry out for mercy (healing), Jesus still 
says
" ... according to your faith be it unto you" Matt 9:29.

Why does much of the church world ignore and neglect the healing ministry 
that was so important to Christ Jesus that He spent two thirds of His time 
engaged in doing it???  Why do so few Baptist churches practice James 
5:14-16???  If we claim to believe the Bible, shouldn't we follow the only 
instructions that the Bible gives for Christians when they get sick???  Most 
Baptists call the doctor before they even think of calling the preacher. 
Sometimes the preacher finds out that his members are in the hospital days 
after they are admitted, ... he is the last one to find out that they are 
sick.  How can God bless and help us if we ignore His clear directions in 
the Bible???

Have you ever read John R Rice's testimony about how he had surgery planned 
for a chronic throat problem and then read for his devotions just before the 
surgery about King Asa????

The fact that the ministry of Divine Healing has been abused and misused by 
some flakey people does not detract from its validity and importance.

I am sorry you have difficulty in following some of  my posts.  I endeavor 
to be clear and concise, .... but I guess we aren't always as clear as we 
think we are.

Jerry



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Warner" <dwarner@...>
To: <pastorsforum@...>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 10:03 PM
Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] please help


> Jerry,
> You seem to be Baptist in name but Pentecostal in theology and practice.
> That is probably what leads to much of my difficulty in understanding what
> you are saying much of the time.
> DW
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jerry [mailto:jelewis@...]
>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 9:50 PM
>> To: pastorsforum@...
>> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] please help
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Warner" <dwarner@...>
>> To: <pastorsforum@...>
>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 7:45 PM
>> Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] please help
>>
>>
>> > Jerry said:
>> > " I believe that the redeeming death of Christ on the Cross
>> provided both
>> > salvation and healing for all who will receive Him. "
>> >
>> > Jerry, Do you mean "healing" as in physical healing of the body?
>> >
>> > DW