Doc, You are setting up a false dichotomy. I want to train my children in the Word of God and that is why I teach them in family devotions, that is why we catechise our children and the like. Yet, to say that the corporate worship is only for adults is not something that is communicated in the Bible. It is clear that the younger ones were in the worship. BTW, when I get home after church I ask my children what the learned from the sermon. The tell me and then I help where needed. Where I have a problem is that the church is the corporate Gathering of his people and when we begin to make it a semi-corporate gathering, there is no precedent for this in Scripture. Now, I am not talking about Sunday School or other activities, I am merely talking about the corporate gathering. We come together as one body... the emphasis on being "one". I do not see this as us being one. I do believe that there is precedent for my belief in Corinthians where the church was condemned for segregating, for whatever reason, the Lord's Supper. It commanded us to wait on the other brethren. BTW, you know me Doc, you know I am passionate about the training of our children in theology. No, my child does not listen to Stanley or the like. Yet, she is growing in the corporate worship service, probably more than most kids are growing in "children's church". And guess what, my child loves church. We had to miss a few weeks ago and she was upset (sickness hit my wife and I). She was not upset because of the "fun activities" but she was upset because she would miss the corporate gathering of God's people. Derick > > In a message dated 11/3/2006 8:40:31 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > Derick@... writes: > > It is all about how you train your children. > If you train them to be wiggly and not able to sit through the service, > they won't. If you train them to sit through the service and be still, > they will. > > > > Derick I guess then we have different goals for our children. My goal is > not to train them how to sit still but to train them in the Word! Every > time a > parent's attention is diverted to their wiggling kids they miss a portion > of > God's teaching. Children are children! They are not adults in little > bodies! Most of the preaching given from the pulpit is beyond their > ability to > comprehend. Again, if we just want them to learn to sit still then why > don't > we make them sit still at home for an hour and a half while we play them > reruns of James Kennedy or Charles Stanley shows on TV? There is nothing > theologically wrong with providing an environment where they can actually > learn at > their own level. It is reasoning like we are hearing that says that it > is > wrong to use musical instruments in the church simply because there is no > mention > of them in the New Testament! The same could be said of the use of > baptistries inside a building. There is no mention of such in the Bible! > Sometimes > inductive interpretations of the Bible are faulty! > God Bless > Doc b > > To subscribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-join@... > > To unsubscribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... >