David W,
I preach at the Wasco Church of Christ "Christian." However, I would label
myself as "Christian."
You and I have had more than one disagreement, and at times I have been more
than unfriendly towards you. But, I am sure enjoying you and I agreeing on
some of the issues that have being the topic for the last 2-3 weeks.
David, no private words of knowledge, but I truly believe that our God is in
the process of "shaking" the Christian Church[es] and His pastors, in
America, as one does a tree to get the fruit down. You find yourself puzzled
about being in agreement with a CofC[er], CofG, and a old fashioned
Pentecostal, and in disagreement with those you would be expecting to be in
agreement with.
I believe you are going to find that to be more and more true in the coming
years, and not to distant at that. I think God is starting to separate His
pastors, not by labels, but by what they stand on and do not stand on. I
believe we are in the midst of
1 Timothy 4:1: "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times
some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and
doctrines of devils...." I also think that 2 Timothy 4:3-4 is quiet
applicable today: "For the time will come when they will not endure sound
doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers,
having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and
shall be turned unto fables."
Please don't take this wrong: You said:::: I'm beginning to wonder if my
label is right!!!!!!!!!!!1
I think you will find in the soon future, though you are labeled a Baptist
[IFB???? if wrong, forgive] that label will be to broad. It will mean
nothing anymore. I am labeled CofC, but that label is to broad today. There
is a United Methodist Pastor in town, and he is anything but a UM. He is
about as Bible as you can get. He just preaches at a church called UMC.
I think God is starting to weed us out. Not by the labels, but by our
stances on the Bible.
Don't hear me to be ecumenical--believe me, I AM NOT. However, I can stand
in the town square and pray with you, but I will not stand
with..............
Just some of my thoughts.
Just a Christian: jerry k
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Warner" <dwarner@...>
To: <pastorsforum@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Saddleback worship??
>I am really starting to get concerned. I find that over the past few days
> I am in much more agreement with an old fashioned Pentecostal and Church
> of God man and a Church of Christ man (I think that is what Jerry K is--if
> not forgive me) than I am some of the brethren who call themselves Baptist
> or Baptistic. IAs a Baptist, I would think I would be more in agreement
> with them. Can someone help me out here. I'm beginning to wonder if my
> label is right!!!!!!!!!!!1
>
> DW
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>> Good afternoon gentlemen,
>>
>> I have followed this discussion with much interest. .
>>
>> I have come to the conclusion that we are definitely not all looking at
>> the same video.
>>
>> What do we call the movement of the mid-region of the bodies at the 1:42
>> point, as someone has already mentioned. What is the young man putting
>> into the air when he puts his hands on the floor?
>>
>> If this video only shows hand movement, some of these wrists go all the
>> way to what I know as the ankle. Worship styles have changed in the
>> last few years, but I think Biology and Anatomy are still
>> ..................... A hand is a hand and a foot is a foot and a
>> -------, oh well.
>>
>> Are some of these young people walking on their hands?
>>
>> I have a question, If the same dance routine were used in a rock
>> concert would it still be as innocent as some of our brothers are
>> saying?
>>
>> I am old fashioned Pentecostal and Church of God in particular, and
>> I'm about dancing like I am tongues. I think the Holy Spirit will give
>> the utterance and I think the Holy Spirit will give the dance. I believe
>> in worship and drawing close to God, I believe in dancing in the
>> spirit, but the spirit will give the step.
>>
>> Someone has already mentioned the verse, Abstain from the APPEARANCE of
>> evil.
>>
>> I've asked the question before at times. If we look just like the world
>> and acat just like the world, what is the difference? Are we not
>> supposed to be different from the world. SANCTIFICATION???????? Set
>> apart in beliefs and actions as well.
>>
>> I'll go back to sleep now. Have a wonderful evening all of you.
>>
>> Mike T
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dpowellaz2@...
>> To: pastorsforum@...
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Saddleback worship??
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 12/26/2006 9:34:01 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
>> dwarner@... writes:
>> Jerry L, are you still saying there were no pelvic thrusts in the
>> dirty dancing done on the Saddleback video?
>>
>> DW
>>
>> I am saying that there was no dirty dancing at Saddleback! You see
>> what you expect to see! You would have been critical of anything
>> coming from Saddleback, dancing or no dancing!
>>
>> Shalom Alechem...Barukh Hashem Y'shua!
>> (Peace and Blessings in Jesus' name!)
>> Pastor David Powell
>>
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