what? where did that come from? red head? wow, of is it implied :) pax jok --- mwcarnes <mick.jinx@...> wrote: > iggy where in the world did you get that Paul may > hve been divirces; his wife as a red head from Rome. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: iggy > To: pastorsforum@... > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:16 PM > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] backsliding > > > funny to me that Paul was able to establish > a church set up it's doctrine, write inspired > scripture, be the same level as Jesus (?), yet > because he may have been divorced, not pastor a > church.... > > weird, > > iggy > > -------Original Message------- > > From: pastorsforum@... > Date: 02/04/04 11:41:59 > To: pastorsforum@... > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] backsliding > > Bro.., > I`ve seen this "logic" > before........QUESTION ? Was Paul a pastor ? in any > sense of the word? OR was he a "missionary", "church > planter"? "Evangelist"? > It is clear to me that a pastor ought to be > the husband of one wife period ! If he is not > married , divorced, or widowed he does not and > cannot meet the requirements set forth in Scripture > ! > Sittin` on the side lines Cecil > > *********** > > DAVID POWELL <dpowellaz@...> wrote: > Then Pastor David, that begs another > question. Was Paul able to lead churches himself? > If, hermeneutically speaking, the mandate of 1 Tim. > 3 is to deal with the marital status of an > Episkopos, episkopos, Bishop then the mandate would > also be that an unmarried man could not, under any > circumstances, be a bishop or a pastor. As for > Paul: > > 1 Cor. 7:7, I wish everyone could get > along without marrying, just as I do. But we are not > all the same. God gives some the gift of marriage, > and to others he gives the gift of singleness. > > The literal hermeneutical approach that you > have lined up would also prohibit widowers from > being pastors because the words in the scriptures > for "be" the husband of one wife, in the Greek are > (Present Active Indicative, 3rd Person Singular) > Which shows only present action that continues on > into the future! If a man's wife is dead, he no > longer IS (present tense) the husband of one wife > but instead he "Was" the husband of one wife! Just > throwing a little muddy water into the discussion! > > God Bless > Pastor David P. > > Shalom Alechem...Barukh Hashem Y'shua! > (Peace and Blessings in Jesus' name!) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building > tool. Try it! > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here ===== john o'keefe http://www.ginkworld.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/