Hi Jeff, On 1/16/07, Jeff Hallmark <bctexan@...> wrote: > > check out well refined. > H2212 זקק zâqaq BDB Definition: 1) to purify, distil, strain, refine 1a) (Qal) 1a1) to purify, distil, strain 1a2) to refine 1b) (Piel) to purge, refine 1c) (Pual) to refine, purify Part of Speech: verb A Related Word by BDB/Strong's Number: a primitive root Same Word by TWOT Number: 576 H2212 זקק zâqaq Total KJV Occurrences: 7 refined, 3 1Ch_28:18, 1Ch_29:4, Isa_25:6 fine, 1 Job_28:1 pour, 1 Job_36:27 purge, 1 Mal_3:3 purified, 1 Psa_12:6 H2212 זקק zâqaq zaw-kak' A primitive root; to strain, (figuratively) extract, clarify: - fine, pour down, purge, purify, refine. I don't have my BHS with me at the moment, so I can't tell what stem is used in Isa 25:6. It looks like a masculine plural participle but I can't tell whether it is a Piel or a Pual (the difference is two vowel points and I only have an unpointed text). The Pual (the passive stem) would make more sense but it doesn't really matter. The word means "refined" as in containing nothing impure. You can only say that it means "without alcohol" if you approach it with the presupposition that it must mean that. How do you remove alcohol with a strainer? -- Grace and peace, Kevin Sigafoos --------------------- For from him and through him and to him are all things. To him be glory forever. Amen. (Rom 11:36)