steven, scarry- but i understand :) you wrote: "We can know Absolute Truth (God) because He has revealed Himself to us by His Creation, His Word and His Son. But we can not know Absolute Truth (God) absolutely (i.e. fully). We are finite and He is infinite." RE: I donot believe God has revealed all he is via, scripture, creation and jesus - i believe God is so much more - we can never truly grasp allthat God is :) so, given that, can we actually ever truly "know him" - or just parts of him? you wrote: "There is a difference then when we speak of Absolute Truth (God) and knowing or believing that there are absolute truths or absolutes as we like to call them (note the lower case)." RE: very cool - lower case and all :) you wrote: "God has revealed to us (in Creation and His Word) truths that we can know absolutely (i.e. fully)" RE: can we? what truths do we know absolutely? if that were the case we would allbe on the same page :) there would be no disagreements on those "absolutes" - given that that would be the nature of an absolute :) you wrote: "but these truths are not God although they do reveal God because He is Truth." RE: they reveal a part of God - but not all of God :) pax jok ===== john o'keefe http://www.ginkworld.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html