[pastorsforum] Re: [PastorsForum] God speaks to His Children today in many ways

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From: "Jerry" <jlew@...>
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:58:38 -0500
Amen, Keep on, brother!!!!

> but who feeds you?? How do you retain your Spiritual Growth??

I am in the Word every single day.  I am constantly feeding my spirit on 
good spiritual food, books, messages by men of God, etc.

Jerry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "al cory" <rapha_el_ministries@...>
To: <pastorsforum@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] God speaks to His Children today in many ways


> Brother Jerry,
>
> It is really a case of 'I'm tired of people "playing"
> church and the truth is they 'dispise' the Word. It is
> a mockery of the things of God.
> I don't care if your a Pentecostal, Baptist, Church of
> Christ, Presbyterian-- you want God to minister to
> your flock [now if you are a liberal-- you may want to
> play church] but the fellows in this group have made
> it clear they are hungry for God-- you can see their
> passion in some of these posts. When the Man of God is
> hungry and thirsting for GOd-- his flock is going to
> be fed, because he is being fed-- just like Elijah in
> the wilderness by the brook. I feel the real reason
> that our moderators in PastorsForum and PastorMail
> started these groups was so we can feed each other and
> share our hearts for true revival and see the souls
> stirred for repentance and spiritual growth in our
> churches. We feed our flock weekly with Sunday AM, PM,
> and mid-week PM but who feeds you?? How do you retain
> your Spiritual Growth?? We need to be fed, our spirits
> should be 'thirsting and hungering after
> righteousness' or we are letting our flock down.
>
> Sorry, did not nean to preach to the chior
>
> GOd Bless You Brothers have a Blessed Sunday
>
> Al Corey
>
>
>
> --- Jerry Krewson <krewfam@...> wrote:
>
>> PREACH IT, BROTHER, PREACH IT. AMEN.
>> jerry k
>> ps: are you sure you are not a Pentecostal [AofG]
>> pastor I know from Alaska?
>> You sound just like him. He is a fine fellow and a
>> great pastor.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "al cory" <rapha_el_ministries@...>
>> To: <pastorsforum@...>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] God speaks to His
>> Children today in many ways
>>
>>
>> > Brother Gary,
>> >
>> > I enjoyed your post. Now you were talking about
>> being
>> > in a Baptist Church, I am in a traditional
>> Pentecostal
>> > CHurch [Assembly of God] and I see the same things
>> > going on in the Pentecostal/Charismatic circles.
>> > I see the preaching of the Word being replaced
>> with a
>> > 'tickle your ear so you can feel 'warm and fuzzy'
>> > word. But the next day, you have nothing
>> spiritually
>> > that can sustain you.
>> > God help us!!
>> > WE need real manifestations of the Spirit of God
>> in
>> > all our churches. On that shows healing of the
>> one's
>> > mind, body, and spirit. People are truely saved--
>> not
>> > just come forward and shake the preacher's hand
>> and
>> > fill out a membership card. WE need real revival--
>> > REVIVAL that shakes up the pew warmers first, then
>> the
>> > neighboehood, then the city, and so on. Not just a
>> > series of meetings. Some of these 'clowns' are of
>> such
>> > 'shady' character that I would not want them in my
>> > church, even to just sit and listen to me. These
>> same
>> > 'clowns' do not belong to a repretable
>> > denomination/fellowship and will tell you in a
>> > heart-beat that they are 'accountable to God and
>> no
>> > man' are full of it. They do not want
>> accountability!!
>> > They do not want someone watching their
>> credability.
>> > On one of these groups I belong to, a Pastor said
>> that
>> > his church told him they did not want doctrine in
>> > their church. Doctrine is basically the TEACHING
>> of
>> > TRUTH. It is sad what is going on in our churches
>> > today. ALL of our churches.
>> >
>> > AL
>> >
>> >
>> > --- Gary Webb <mgwebb@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >> As a Baptist who is not a cessationist, I think I
>> >> understand some of the controversy.  First, many
>> >> modern utterances that are called prophecy are in
>> >> contradiction of the Word.  Second, some who
>> claim
>> >> supernatural anointings to speak for God have
>> very
>> >> questionable reputations for sensuality or
>> >> corruption.  Third, many who make incorrect
>> >> prophecies never even publicly confess and seek
>> >> forgiveness (even though their sin was so
>> public).
>> >> Fourth, many have ministries that operate like
>> >> for-profit businesses, with tax exemptions but
>> >> without accountability to anyone they don't
>> control.
>> >>  Fifth, the public pulpit manner of some appears
>> so
>> >> arrogant that it is offensive to some.
>> >>
>> >> Years ago, while in Texas, I was a staff member
>> at a
>> >> church in the midst of revival.  We saw miracles
>> of
>> >> healing almost daily.  Dozens and dozens of
>> people
>> >> were being saved.  It was an exciting time.  But
>> >> when "prophets" began to arrive at the church,
>> >> things went a little crazy.  They brought
>> "personal
>> >> words" for our members (tickling their ears with
>> >> ideas about the great futures they had ahead of
>> >> them).  Needless to say, God had to withhold His
>> >> hand from doing the wonderful things He had been
>> >> doing.  Miracles were replaced by manipulations.
>> >> Biblical doctrines were replaced by the latest
>> >> imaginationary spiritual insight.  In some cases,
>> I
>> >> honestly could not see how it would be possible
>> to
>> >> so distort the meaning of words to come up with
>> some
>> >> of these weird misunderstandings.  I'm glad I got
>> >> away from that, even though I continue to relish
>> the
>> >> wonderful memories of what it was like before
>> things
>> >> went weird.
>> >>
>> >> Even those who accept the exercise of spiritual
>> >> gifts today often have problems with which
>> >> ministries they find credible.  In these cases,
>> the
>> >> "gifts" seem to weaken the confidence of
>> believers
>> >> rather than strengthen them.  It has been a part
>> of
>> >> the modern consumer mentality among young
>> >> Christians.  They move from one spiritual hero to
>> >> another, from one church to another, accumulating
>> >> odd notions that are accepted as if they came
>> from
>> >> God, but these ungrounded babes are too ignorant
>> of
>> >> the Word to sort through it.
>> >>
>> >> I cannot endorse a ministry on the basis of
>> whether
>> >> it is cessationist or continuationist.  Either
>> could
>> >> be just a carnal mess.  It could be a battle
>> between
>> >> the intellectual and the emotional, with both in
>> >> error.  We must truly search the Scriptures.  I
>> do
>> >> not believe God is now revealing doctinal
>> insights.
>> >> I do believe He is providing guidance for life
>> and
>> >> ministry, how to apply the truth He has already
>> >> given us.  Watch carefully the next time some new
>> >> "prophet" comes on the scene.  Listen carefully
>> to
>> >> what is said.  If he begins to give new
>> >> understandings of the nature of God...watch
>> things
>> >> go nuts!  He will soon enough move on to have a
>> >> cultish following of folks who believe whatever
>> he
>> >> says.  If it doesn't match what the Bible says,
>> they
>> >> will be even more amazed that he has such wisdom,
>> >> that he can see things there that they cannot.
>> It
>> >> is pitiful to watch this happen to folks.  I
>> believe
>> >> that is why some are reacting against the use of
>> >> gifts today.  The church doesn't discipline those
>> >> who cross the line into falsehood.  We don't
>> correct
>> >> them with the Word.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> GARY WEBB
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>   From: MICHAEL SHARON TITTLE
>> >>   To: pastorsforum@...
>> >>   Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 3:20 AM
>> >>   Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] God speaks to His
>> >> Children today in many ways
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   Good morning Bro Jerry
>> >>
>> >>   I agree with your point, without the Holy
>> Spirit
>> >> we
>> >>   would almost be on our own as far as knowing
>> >>   God's will.  The Holy Spirit is there for many
>> >>   reasons, including revealing the word of God,
>> >>   convicting and calling us into the ministries
>> we
>> >>   have.  It is the Holy Spirit that coaches us as
>> >>   we step into the work God has called us.
>> >>
>> >>   Knowing that the Holy Spirit does indeed
>> >>   speak to us, why is it so hard to think the
>> >>   Holy Spirit could speak through us?
>> >>   I'm not trying to start a big dispute with
>> anyone
>>
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