Miguel, foreknowledge and predestination cannot be separated - what God knows will happen happens because He decreed it and what God has decreed he obviously knows will happen in time. In Scripture the two always either appear together or the one is implied where the other is present. God's primary purpose in all things is to glorify Himself. All that God does is perfect and righteous He does not need to resort to plan B. Peace, Steve Miguel wrote: > > *Here are some questions – made me think the following responses – * > > * * > > *Rather than open theism – fatalism.* > > * * > > *Why was the “Lamb slain before the foundation of the World” if so > many were predestined? I guess the old age question of which came > first – foreknowledge or predestination – guess God in his > foreknowledge just knew what was going to happen therefore made a > provision for it – a demonstration of His eternal love for this > creation that He loved so much.* > > * * > > *Some thoughts* > > * * > > *Miguel*** > > * * > > * * > > * * > > * * > > * * > > * * > > * * > > * * > > You are opening yourself up to Open Theism. Is God's omniscience not > perfect? Is his sovereignty not sufficient to prevent events that He > does not wish to happen? > > If God didn't plan the Fall then in what sense is Christ "the Lamb > slain before the foundation of the world?" How do you explain Heb 4:3 > and 1 Pe 1:20? Even the curse that God placed on the serpent shows > that God had a plan to redeem His people at the very moment of the > Fall (Gen 3:16). > > Adam chose to fall and God allowed it. > > Why did God allow it? Could God have prevented it? Did He have to > scramble to come up with a plan afterwards? > > * * > > > To subscribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-join@... > > To unsubs > cribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > > > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Pastor Steven G. Rockhill Lisbon Reformed Presbyterian Church PO Box 88 Lisbon, NY 13658 315-393-9041 revrock@... http://lisbonrpc.port5.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++