Thanks!

I could not figure out if the idea of :"riding the goat" was an inside joke 
or if there really was something to it ...  I had found several drawings, 
caricature about it, but nothing more.  You have made this more clear for 
me.

In a similar fashion, I have wondered about the illusion to the "magic 
underwear" that Temple Certified Mormons wear .....  Is it an inside joke 
that it is "magic"????  Do they really think that wearing special underwear 
protects them from evil???

Is "Magic Underwear" a term that those critical to Mormonism use or is it a 
term that Mormons themselves use?

Jerry





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edwin Hill" <ehillnewlife@...>
To: <pastorsforum@...>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 2:35 AM
Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Offended by church recognizing the Masons : 
"Riding the Goat"


>" Riding the goat" or in some lodges "feeding the
> goat" is part of the initiation ritual of masonry. It
> is as follows,with some variations by lodge: the new
> initiates are told to bring something to the feast to
> "feed the goat". they are then herded into a room off
> the main hall and told to strip-in some instances
> naked;some only down to undergarments. They are then
> led into the darkened main hall to take part in the
> initiation ritual and to take the oath.  Now comes the
> riding the goat-feeding the goat-. the neophytes are
> told whomever is first to dress and return to the main
> hall will be seated at the senior deacon's place at
> the feast. The newbie then hurries to be first! Upon
> returning to the main hall to the feast,he is then
> subdued by a number of fellow masons and stripped of
> clothing and dignity only to be told that he is 'The
> goat"! The supposed purpose for this activity is to
> teach each new mason to never desire that which
> belongs to another.
> --- MICHAEL  SHARON TITTLE <drmike1@...>
> wrote:
>
>> I read a book once by a man who had been
>> a mason and came out of the organization.
>> Some of the things he wrote were scarey.
>> He wrote about the true significance of
>> membership in this "organization".
>>
>> He discussed relationships,  family vs.
>> other other members of the organization.
>>
>> He also discussed how the freemasonry
>> might have influenced architecture in early
>> building  of important structures in Wash, DC.,
>> as well as the position of certain structures in
>> the geography of the city.
>>
>> I don't really know, just a thought.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Jerry
>> To: pastorsforum@...
>> Sent: 5/19/2007 12:33:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Offended by church
>> recognizing the Masons
>>
>>
>> There is a web site that lists a large number of
>> famous and influential people who were or are
>> Masons.  Many Presidents and other governmental
>> leaders have been Freemasons.
>>
>> Many Masons wear pins identifying them as Masons.
>> Often, Masons will place stickers on the rear of
>> their vehicles.  (I had a truck driver tell me that
>> he became a Mason because lots of highway patrolmen
>> were Masons .....)
>>
>> I was visiting with a sick church member once, in
>> his home, and another preacher came to visit him as
>> well.  This other preacher, a Baptist pastor, came
>> wearing a baseball cap with a compass and square
>> imposed upon it.
>>
>> I have seen T shirts with the "point within a
>> circle" printed on the front.
>>
>> So, many men do not hide the fact that they are in
>> the Freemasons, ... they advertise it with their
>> symbols.  Many people will see the symbol and will
>> inquire about it giving the mason opportunity to
>> talk about the Craft.
>>
>> Have you ever heard anyone talk about "riding the
>> goat"?????
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Dpowellaz2@...
>> To: pastorsforum@...
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 11:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Offended by church
>> recognizing the Masons
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 5/18/2007 8:27:26 A.M. US
>> Mountain Standard Time, bctexan@... writes:
>> OK, Steve, Mike and all.
>>
>> What if they are a member of a secret society and it
>> is a secret??? shssss   ;-)
>>
>> Being in the Masons has never been a matter of
>> secrecy.  It is the meetings and oaths that are held
>> in strict secrecy.  To reveal is supposed to carry
>> dire results according to the oaths.
>> Doc
>>
>> Shalom Alechem...Barukh Hashem Y'shua!
>> (Peace and Blessings in Jesus' name!)
>> Pastor David Powell
>>
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