John,
Are you saying there are no sinful acts?  Are you saying we don't sin?
David

-----Original Message-----
From: john okeefe [mailto:jxpxus@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:53 PM
To: pastorsforum@...
Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] why the "anti?"


thomas,

you wrote: "but what could be more 'negative' then
spending eternity in hell for sin?"

RE:  we do not "got to hell" for sin - we "go to hell"
because we do not have a relationship with God through
christ - sin is not what we do, it is who we are - all
sin, have sinned and will continue to sin -

pax
jok


--- Thomas Peck <twpeck@...> wrote:
> Brother John,
> If we walk around with our eyes closed it is only a
> matter of time before we
> trip and fall.
> Yes, some of the messages are, using today's
> thinking, is 'negative', but
> what could be more 'negative' then spending eternity
> in hell for sin?
>
> Being of Grace does not mean that the law no longer
> exists, it just means
> that the law was fulfilled by Christ and it was His
> Grace that means we will
> not be judged by the law.  He paid the ticket but
> the speed limit is still
> posted.
>
> For His Glory,
> Tom Peck
> ----------------------------
> > can i ask a question to all -
> >
> > why are you guys against so much?  i mean, as a
> > "newbe" i have been noticing that most of the
> comments
> > i have been reading are rather negative, why is
> that?
> >
> > you are against culture -
> > you are against roman catholics
> > you are against drinking
> > you are against movies
> > you are against alternative music
> > you are agaist tattoos
> > you are against earrings - only on guys i might
> add
> > you are against so much - why?
> > the list seems endless
> >
> > i am not trying to get people ticked - but i just
> need
> > to know.  i am asking in honest and open dialog -
> why
> > are you so much against everything?  if you are
> not, i
> > have to tell you that it seems like you are - and
> that
> > negative vibe flows - it even comes out in the
> ever so
> > slight "cheap shot" that are made every now and
> then -
> > it kind of smacks of "we are better then the rest"
> and
> > it just give me the shakes.
> >
> > i would hope that this goes through and that an
> honest
> > and open dialog can develop around it - i am not a
> "10
> > commandment christian" - i believe the law is over
> and
> > we live under grace - but it seems that many still
> > hold to the "law" as guide -
> >
> > so, help me figure this all out - why so anti?
> >
> > pax
> > jok
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > http://www.ginkworld.net
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