[pastorsforum] Re: [PastorsForum] Baptist Stigma

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From: shieldwolf@...
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 09:46:08 -0400 (EDT)
Actually, in all honesty,...Pentecostal Liturgical.

I realize that might get me in some hot water with some of my Lutheran
"homeboys" but I clearly see a Syodical leaning to Episcopal with a
liturgical approach borrowed from the synagogue that was definitely
"Pentecostal."

All of us have a part, I doubt any of us have the whole. :)

Blessings,
Randy

> Doc,
>
> Absolutely not!!!
>
> His claim seems to be (based on previous postings) that since there are
> several distinctive doctrinal beliefs held by Baptists today that were
> evident in the church in the Book of Acts, that that made them "Baptist"
> even though they did not use the name "Baptist."
>
> The problem is, those beliefs are also held by many other religious groups
> and are not exclusive to Baptists.
>
> My position has been that they church in the Book of Acts looks more
> Pentecostal/Charismatic than anything else.
>
> Jerry
> "Therefore they stayed there a long time, speaking boldly in the Lord, who
> was bearing witness to the word of His grace, granting signs and wonders
> to be done by their hands" (Acts 14:3).
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Dpowellaz2@...
>   To: pastorsforum@...
>   Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 8:20 PM
>   Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Baptist Stigma
>
>
>   Jerry, do you agree with David W that all the New Testament churches
> were Baptist churches?
>
>   Dave P
>
>   In a message dated 5/20/2008 2:30:28 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> jlew@... writes:
>     Jerry K,
>
>     >>>>> Do you know if Billy Graham was 'filled with the holy Spirit?'
>
>     I cannot attest for any spiritual experiences that Mr Graham
> experienced.
>
>     However, he did write and publish a good book on the subject with some
>     excellent teaching regarding activating God's power in your life.
> There is
>     much that he writes that, IMHO, is based on denominational tradition,
> yet
>     there is a lot of good in his book.
>
>     On page 140 in chapter 8 (The Fullness of the Spirit) he states, "In
> my own
>     life there have been times when I have also had the sense of being
> filled
>     with the Spirit, knowing that some special strength was added for some
> task
>     I was being called upon to perform."
>
>     He goes on to state," To be filled with the Spirit is not an option,
> but a
>     necessity.  It is indispensable for the abundant life and for fruitful
>     service. ... It is intended for all, needed by all, and available to
> all.
>     That is why the Scripture commands all of us, "Be filled with the
> Spirit."
>
>     I might add, the "filling with the Spirit" is not automatic.  The
> Bible
>     tells us that we are to ask for the power of the Holy Spirit.  Even
> then, it
>     is still not automatic, ... there is a "receiving" that we must do.
>
>     Acts 8:14-15
>     14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria
> had
>     received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
>     15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might
> receive
>     the Holy Ghost:
>
>     Acts 8:17
>     17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy
> Ghost.
>
>     Acts 19:5-6
>     5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord
> Jesus.
>     6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on
> them;
>     and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
>
>     God has already sent the Spirit, He has done His part in "giving" the
> power
>     of the Spirit, ... it is up to us to do the "receiving."
>
>     Jerry L
>     "Therefore they stayed there a long time, speaking boldly in the Lord,
> who
>     was bearing witness to the word of His grace, granting signs and
> wonders to
>     be done by their hands" (Acts 14:3).
>
>
>   Shalom Alechem...Barukh Hashem Y'shua!
>   (Peace and Blessings in Jesus' name!)
>   Pastor Dr. David Powell
>
>
>
>
>
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