A great place to see the "Bible Way" explained from scripture is out at the LCMS web site: http://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=2590 I see no need to repeat what they have noted so well. Again, feel free to return to the historic, Biblical understanding with me if you would like. And, if you would like to return to the Biblical understanding of eschatology rather than that which started in the 1800's, feel free to join me there, too. ;) Blessings, Randy > other baby baptizer ministers have indicated the same to me as well > > they have all kinds of excuses and reasons for not doing it the bible > way...... > > hey one excuse is as good as another > > but the reality is any mode or method other than the bible way is not > scriptural......kind of like salvation > > oohhhhhhhhh > > that is deep......about as deep and thick as your bible.. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steven G. Rockhill > To: pastorsforum@... > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 6:27 AM > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] baptist stigma > > > Gary, > Sadly, your Methodist friend conceded an assertion that is not provable > and rather unlikely. > > Peace, > Steve > > Gary Webb wrote: > Those who honor the inerrancy of Scripture will always seek to make > their doctrine and practice conform to their best understanding of > what Scripture says. > > I had a discussion of baptism with a Methodist pastor years ago where > he conceded that baptism in the New Testament was always by immersion. > Then he said that the principle of grace releases us from conforming > to that pattern exclusively. His response told me more about him than > about the Word. > > > GARY WEBB > > > From: Jerry Krewson > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:09 AM > To: pastorsforum@... > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] baptist stigma > > > And again, if it's just a pretty picture, who cares what you use -- > use > pizza and Coke -- if it is just a pretty picture. > > AMEN, Randy. > jerry k > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <shieldwolf@...> > To: <pastorsforum@...> > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:39 PM > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] baptist stigma > > > > Yes, my mother once said there would be no fermentation in heaven. > > > > I said, OH, then their won't be any bread, either, because it uses a > yeast > > or fermentation process. > > > > Of course, in the LC-MS, there was the exact argument. Because they > are > > known for their historical and grammatical scholarship, they argued > > because it was clear from history that it was fermented grape wine > that > > was used that ONLY such could be used. To use unfermented was to > mock > > scripture and the historical reality of the situation. > > > > It's funny what different folk say about this. > > > > And again, if it's just a pretty picture, who cares what you use -- > use > > pizza and Coke -- if it is just a pretty picture. > > > > Blessings, > > Randy > > > >> Randy wrote: > >> > >> Next you'll be saying it's not a valid Lord's Supper unless you > only use > >> unfermented grape juice. <wink> > >> > >> more baptist stigma here...... > >> > >> baptists in the past have preached that the element of > >> the Lords supper (the cup) should not have any fermentation in > >> it....ie...unfermented juice....just another stigma.... > >> > >> something about purity or no sin or leaven or picturing > >> perfect precious clean blood that cleanses away sin... > >> > >> these stigmas sure can picture something to people... > >> > >> no wonder the name baptist is being dropped ... > >> that stigma is stifling...... > >> > >> who in the world would want to show or picture pure > ...clean...untainted > >> ...blood in the cup....???? > >> while showing His death till he comes...???? > >> > >> what a stigma........ > >> > >> interesting... > >> bro. hughes > >> > >> > >> non-tainted > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> To subscribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-join@... > >> > >> To unsubscribe, send a message to: > pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > >> > >> > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-join@... > > > > To unsubscribe, send a message to: > pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-join@... > > To unsubscribe, send a message to: > pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > > To subscribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-join@... > > To unsubs > cribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > > > > > > -- > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Pastor Steven G. 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