I love that! Marshall's Arts! I'm going to remember that. I forget the branch/ryu-ha of Shorin Ryu karate that brother Miguel practices, but it is a true Okinawan art and from what I understand he is very adept in such. A Yondan is a 4th Degree black belt and means you should have studied your art for at least 12 to 15 years. I'm but a Nidan (2nd Degree) in Matsumura Koeppel-ha Shorin Ryu which is of the Matsumura Seito branch of Okinawan karate. I've studied for only just over 10 years. I have zero natural physical ability so everything I do is work, work, work. :) Marshall's Arts! I absolutely love the pun! Thank you! Blessings, Randy > Which of Marshall's Arts is this? > > Shieldwolf wrote: >> I know Miguel is a Yondan in a pretty decent style of Shorin Ryu while >> I am but Nidan going on Sandan. :) >> >> Blessings, >> Randy >> >> Steven G. Rockhill wrote: >>> Randy, >>> We might have to put you in time out for a while to un-ape! :-) >>> Legalism does kill. I was greatly ashamed when I first came to my >>> church and an elder mind you was telling me about a conversation he >>> had with a guy who had inquired - "what is it to be a member of your >>> church?". His response (the elders) was - Well you can't smoke, >>> can't drink, can't dance or play cards! I was absolutely stunned I >>> almost drove off the road. So now I have stressed that to be a >>> member of our church you must believe in Christ and the Gospel. >>> There may be prudence in the other things, but the central issue is >>> Christ. >>> >>> Peace, >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> PS I don't know if I would want to go toe-to-toe with any of these >>> guys - there are some big dudes on this forum. >>> >>> >>> shieldwolf@... wrote: >>>> I understand COMPLETELY. Trust me: I used to be the legalist of the >>>> legalists. I didn't go to movies---I didn't even go inside stores or >>>> restaurants if they sold alcohol, I would never say "darn, gee,...etc" >>>> and >>>> would always correct everyone else around me who did---for shame on >>>> them! >>>> I WAS SOOOO SPIRITUAL. BAH! HUMBUG! I was the most self-righteous >>>> prig >>>> one could find anywhere. I know I drove far more folk away with my >>>> "gospel plus keep this list" than I ever helped. I was the epitome >>>> of >>>> "Christ Repellent." But God in His Grace and Mercy saved me from that >>>> life---Free from the law! Oh! Happy condition! I was list-keeper, >>>> now, >>>> by His work of Grace, I'm a Christian. >>>> >>>> When I see others trying to force that list of legalism and false >>>> spirituality on others, I go absolutely ape s. I want to cause them >>>> the >>>> same pain suffering and grief that those white-washed sepulchers have >>>> caused others because I know the pain I unnecessarily caused and the >>>> false >>>> spirituality I had because I kept "the list." >>>> >>>> Now, you by God's Grace have seen that your salvation is not dependent >>>> upon you---if it were, that would be works! But you have seen that it >>>> is >>>> totally of God's Grace and that when others besmirch that view of God >>>> who >>>> is Sovereign and Gracious, you respond as I do to the legalist. >>>> >>>> We both (by God's Grace and His working in us by Word and Sacrament >>>> and >>>> Prayer) need to get beyond the bozos. >>>> >>>> Trust me, I know it's hard. Probably the only one on this list that I >>>> couldn't beat going toe-to-toe would be Miguel and he would most >>>> likely >>>> hand me my lunch pretty well....but that doesn't make it how we >>>> should >>>> respond. >>>> >>>> Blessings from your Reformation cousin, >>>> Randy >>>> >>>> >>>>> Randy, >>>>> Again I did not lead the way on this one - though unfortunately I >>>>> responded. >>>>> >>>>> Peace, >>>>> steve >>>>> >>>>> shieldwolf@... wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jerry/Steve: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think you're taking this off track. I think we all agree the >>>>>> preacher >>>>>> went off-tack with what he said. The question then becomes, what >>>>>> Truth >>>>>> do >>>>>> you give in Love that brings comfort to the bereaved at that time? >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe that was the sister's question. >>>>>> >>>>>> Blessings, >>>>>> Randy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Jerry, >>>>>>> So you are saying Jesus was lying here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Matthew 26:28 28 "For this is My blood of the new covenant, which >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> shed for many for the remission of sins. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jerry Lewis wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Steve, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No one will be in heaven on account of a covenant promise. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> God's promise of new life in Christ is to the individual who >>>>>>>> believes >>>>>>>> and not to the group with a believing head of the family. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Every person must personally come to God through personal belief >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> Christ, ... "... no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jerry >>>>>>>> "They brought to him many who were possessed with demons; and he >>>>>>>> cast >>>>>>>> out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were sick. This >>>>>>>> was to >>>>>>>> fulfil what was spoken by the prophet Isaiah, 'He took our >>>>>>>> infirmities >>>>>>>> and bore our diseases.' "(Matt 8:16-17). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* Steven G. Rockhill <mailto:revrock@...> >>>>>>>> *To:* pastorsforum@... >>>>>>>> <mailto:pastorsforum@...> >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2008 3:28 PM >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [PastorsForum] What are your thoughts >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Doc, >>>>>>>> Unlike you, I am able to point folks to the Covenant promises >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> God and that He is faithful in keeping those promises. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Peace, >>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dpowellaz2@... wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In a message dated 6/6/2008 8:24:39 A.M. US Mountain Standard >>>>>>>>> Time, revrock@... writes: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dean, >>>>>>>>> I do not believe there is any scriptural support for >>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>> the pastor said (i.e. the child would be a man). Besides >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> error of his claim it offers zero comfort to the >>>>>>>>> grieving. >>>>>>>>> So in other words it was a pretty stupid thing for him to >>>>>>>>> say. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Peace, >>>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But can you offer any comfort yourself when all you can tell >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> grieving parents is that IF the child was part of the chosen >>>>>>>>> elect then the child will be in heaven. If the child was not >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> part of the elect chosen then she would be in hell! >>>>>>>>> Dave P >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> */Shalom Alechem...Barukh Hashem Y'shua!/* >>>>>>>>> (*Peace and Blessings in Jesus' name!*) >>>>>>>>> Pastor Dr. David Powell >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. 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