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From: Edwin Hill <ehillnewlife@...>
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:55:07 -0700 (PDT)
I Too am teaching through  Hebrews an have found The
Preachers Online Sermon And Bible  & Commentary to be
a very helpful tool. i believe it to be one of the
best there is. try it.
--- J & M <jim.melissa@...> wrote:

> Thanks DW.  Looks like helpful free stuff.
> When you get to Heb. 6 you'll have to explain your
> view to us.
> Jimbo
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: David Warner 
>   To: pastorsforum@... 
>   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:52 AM
>   Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] Wesley in prison for
> souls
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>   I am teaching thru Hebrews and just finished Chap.
> 2.  Earl White has an excellent commentary of
> Hebrews and can be downloaded free from Fellowship
> Tract League.
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http://www.fellowshiptractleague.org/Books/Commentaries/Hebrews2.pdf
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>   Lots of stuff here in addition to this:
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>   http://www.fellowshiptractleague.org/books.htm
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>   From: Jeff Hallmark [mailto:bctexan@...] 
>   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 1:25 AM
>   To: pastorsforum@...
>   Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Wesley in prison for
> souls
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>   Hey, David. I taught tonight from Hebrews as well.
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>   Hebrews 2:3 and 4.   Dealt with the apostle's sign
> gifts. Taught why Baptist don't speak in tongues,
> drink, cast out the sick and lay hands on the
> demons.
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>   On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:36 PM, David Warner
> <dwarner@...> wrote:
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>   I hadn't planned it, but I actually used this
> story tonight in prayer meeting speaking on Heb 2
> and the "fear of death" being done away with in
> Christ.
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>   From: Jerry [mailto:jlew@...] 
>   Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:17 PM
>   To: pastorsforum@...
>   Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Wesley in prison for
> souls
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>   Remarkable story!!!!
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>   Jerry
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>   "And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith
> God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh:
> and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and
> your young men shall see visions, and your old men
> shall dream dreams:Acts 2:17 KJV
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>     ----- Original Message ----- 
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>     From: J & M 
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>     To: pastorsforum@... 
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>     Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:36 PM
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>     Subject: [PastorsForum] Wesley in prison for
> souls
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>     Wanted to pass this along from John Piper's
> writing about Charles Wesley.  Convicting and
> Challenging it is.
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>     On July 18, 1738, two months after his
> conversion, Charles Wesley did an amazing thing. He
> had spent the week witnessing to inmates at the
> Newgate prison with a friend named "Bray," who he
> described as "a poor ignorant mechanic." One of the
> men they spoke to was "a black slave that had robbed
> his master." He was sick with a fever and was
> condemned to die. 
> 
>     Wesley and Bray asked if they could be locked in
> overnight with the prisoners who were to be executed
> the next day. That night they spoke the gospel. They
> told the men that "one came down from heaven to save
> lost sinners." They described the sufferings of the
> Son of God, his sorrows, agony, and death. 
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>     The next day, the men were loaded onto a cart
> and taken to Tyburn. Charles went with them. Ropes
> were fastened around their necks so that the cart
> could be driven off and leave them swinging in the
> air to choke to death. 
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>     The fruit of Wesley's and Bray's night-long
> labor was astonishing. Here's what Wesley wrote: 
> 
>       They were all cheerful; full of comfort,
> peace, and triumph; assuredly persuaded Christ had
> died for them, and waited to receive them into
> paradise. . . . The black . . . saluted me with his
> looks. As often as his eyes met mine, he smiled with
> the most composed, delightful countenance I ever
> saw. 
> 
>       We left them going to meet their Lord, ready
> for the bridegroom. When the cart drove off, not one
> stirred, or struggled for life, but meekly gave up
> their spirits. Exactly at twelve they were turned
> off. I spoke a few suitable words to the crowd; and
> returned, full of peace and confidence in our
> friends' happiness. That hour under the gallows was
> the most blessed hour of my life. (Journal, vol 1,
> 120-123) 
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>     Two things amaze and inspire me in this story.
> One is the astonishing power of Wesley's message
> about the truth and love of Christ. All the
> condemned prisoners were converted. And they were so
> deeply converted in one night that they could look
> death in the face (without any long period of
> "follow-up" or "discipling") and give up their
> spirits with confidence that Christ would receive
> them. O, for such power and witness! 
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>     The other thing that amazes me is the sheer fact
> that Wesley went to the prison and asked to be
> locked up all night with condemned criminals. It was
> a huge risk. These men had nothing more to lose if
> they killed another person. Wesley had no supervisor
> telling him that this was his job. He was not a
> professional prison minister. It would have been
> comfortable and pleasant to spend the evening at
> home conversing with friends. Why did he go? 
> 
>     God put it in his heart to go. And Wesley
> yielded. Wesley believed in hell and heaven. He
> believed that what these prisoners believed from
> their hearts on that night would determine forever
> their eternal destiny. It was worth risking his life
> for. O that I might discern the leading of God when
> something outside my usual path is called for. 
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http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/RecentlyAdded/2827_Charles_Wesleys_Radical_and_Fruitful_Risk/
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Ed Hill,Sr