delmer - i know the prayer and the verse, but that is not a "traditional" sinners prayer and is not needed for anything - remember, that the use of a sinners prayer is for "salvation" and the person who was praying in the temeple was already a believe and attending worship - and was worshiping God - in the evangelical tradition the "sinners prayer" is the magic words needed to be saved - all i am saying is that it is not needed, only the confessing to being a follower is needed - pax jok . Lawson" <delgene@...> wrote: > JOK: > > The prayer is found in Luke 18:10-13. > > "Two men went up into the temple to > pray; the one a > Pharisee, and the other a publican. > The Pharisee stood and prayed thus > with himself, God, I > thank thee, that I am not as other men are, > extortioners, unjust, > adulterers, or even as this > publican. > I fast twice in the week, I give > tithes of all that I > possess. > And the publican, standing afar off, > would not lift up so > much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his > breast, saying, God be > merciful to me a sinner." > > The Pharisee was a self-righteous hypocrite, whild > the publican was one > who needed repentance. Jesus said the publican went > away justified. > ibid. > > Because of Calvary, yours, > Delmer G. Lawson > Jesus loves you, and I do too > > -- > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > "In essential things, unity; in non-essential > things, liberty; and in all things, charity." > ===== john o'keefe http://www.ginkworld.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html