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From: Shieldwolf <shieldwolf@...>
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:14:12 -0400
I don't think that is the issue in this case.  The issue in this case is 
that the individuals mentioned have clearly "jumped ship" when it comes 
to the historic Christian faith.  As I said before, it is old news.  If 
someone chooses to ignore that news, there is nothing one can do about that.

Blessings,
Randy

JoynCharles wrote:
> Jeff,
>  If I did not agree with your doctrine, then would it be my duty to 
> expose it here? 
>  
> Rev. Charles Cockroft
> Associate Pastor
> First Assembly of God, Denison, Texas
> A Church Without Walls
>
> *From:* Jeff Hallmark <mailto:bctexan@...>
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 05, 2008 4:26 PM
> *To:* pastorsforum@... <mailto:pastorsforum@...>
> *Subject:* Re: [PastorsForum] Teaching of False Teachers
>
> David P, it is not my concern is one agrees with my conclusions or 
> not. Doctrinal error must be exposed, if one is all-inclusive in 
> doctrine. They will have a problem with those of us who are not 
> all-inclusive in doctrine. Jesus, Peter and Paul all exposed error 
> inline with the Word of God. But then some do not have the Word of God 
> today, yet many of us have God's Word today.
>
> Enjoy the heat.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:13 PM, <Dpowellaz2@... 
> <mailto:Dpowellaz2@...>> wrote:
>
>     I understand but you must also know that there are many who do not
>     share your conclusions.  So you see, in many of these videos you
>     share it is indeed  a disagreement.  Sometimes, I am not
>     necessarily referring to these particular ones, what you feel is
>     error is not what others, equally dedicated to God's Word as
>     yourself, classify as error.  There is a fine line between
>     pointing out error (IYO) and in putting down other servants of God!
>     Doc
>      
>      
>     */Shalom Alechem...Barukh Hashem Y'shua!/*
>     (*Peace and Blessings in Jesus' name!*)
>     Pastor Dr. David Powell
>      
>     In a message dated 7/5/2008 12:24:51 P.M. US Mountain Standard
>     Time, bctexan@... <mailto:bctexan@...> writes:
>
>         David P, it is not that we "just disagree with" but error that
>         needs to be exposed.
>
>
>
>         On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:52 AM, <Dpowellaz2@...
>         <mailto:Dpowellaz2@...>> wrote:
>
>             I just think that our time can better be spent leading
>             people to Christ instead away from teachers we don't agree
>             with.  If our voices were going to make a difference it
>             would have long ago!
>             Doc
>              
>             In a message dated 7/5/2008 9:39:46 A.M. US Mountain
>             Standard Time, dwarner@... <mailto:dwarner@...>
>             writes:
>
>                 *Are none of these people still on the public airwaves
>                 teaching and preaching these same doctrines which call
>                 for gospel preachers to warn this present generation? 
>                 I've heard of most of these people but do not know if
>                 any are actively soliciting new followers today.*
>
>                 ** 
>
>                 *DW*
>
>                 ** 
>
>                 ** 
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>                 *From:* Dpowellaz2@... <mailto:Dpowellaz2@...>
>                 [mailto:Dpowellaz2@... <mailto:Dpowellaz2@...>]
>                 *Sent:* Saturday, July 05, 2008 12:32 PM
>                 *To:* pastorsforum@...
>                 <mailto:pastorsforum@...>
>                 *Subject:* Re: [PastorsForum] Teaching of False Teachers
>
>                  
>
>                 I must agree with Randy at this point.  It sxeems
>                 rather nonsense to drudge up old issues unless it is
>                 just for the sole purpose of putting doesn people that
>                 have already been dealt with.  I am not a fan of any
>                 of those mentioned but why don't we stick with
>                 contemporary issues rather than some that are so far
>                 back as to not really be issues at all, at least not
>                 for those today!
>
>                 Doc
>
>                  
>
>                 In a message dated 7/5/2008 9:04:42 A.M. US Mountain
>                 Standard Time, shieldwolf@...
>                 <mailto:shieldwolf@...> writes:
>
>                     A Jeff, while most of this news isn't as old as
>                     "Hitler invades Poland" it
>                     is at least 15 years old because 15 years ago I
>                     was selling the following
>                     books that dealt with this:
>                     A different Gospel,
>                     http://www.amazon.com/Different-Gospel-Biblical-Historical-Insights/dp/1565631323/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215273625&sr=8-1
>                     <http://www.amazon.com/Different-Gospel-Biblical-Historical-Insights/dp/1565631323/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215273625&sr=8-1>
>                     and Micheal Horton's the Agony of Deceit
>                     http://www.amazon.com/Agony-Deceit-Preachers-Really-Teaching/dp/0802487785/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215273675&sr=1-11
>                     <http://www.amazon.com/Agony-Deceit-Preachers-Really-Teaching/dp/0802487785/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215273675&sr=1-11>
>                     and Hank Hannegraff had one, too.
>
>                     It looks like these books are almost 20 years
>                     old.  Granted, the data is
>                     still there and the folk you mentioned still seem
>                     to be proclaiming their
>                     heterodox to heretical views, but still.  Those
>                     fish have been in the sun
>                     for some time now.
>
>                     Blessings!
>                     Randy
>
>
>                     > In Their Own Words — Word Faith
>                     > Teachers<http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?p=980>from
>                     > sliceoflaodicea.com
>                     <http://sliceoflaodicea.com/><http://www.google.com/reader/view/feed/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sliceoflaodicea.com%2F%3Ffeed%3Drss2>by
>                     > Ingrid
>                     > Schlueter
>                     >
>                     > Here John Avanzini
>                     > declares<http://www.biblefacts.org/cult/mp3/duplacate.mp3>that
>                     God
>                     > told him that morning that His eternal purpose is
>                     duplicating
>                     > Himself in the earth. Avanzini is one of the
>                     speakers at the Word Faith
>                     > conference where Ray Comfort will be speaking.
>                     Ray has no choice but to
>                     > expose this blasphemy to the people attending.
>                     >
>                     > Here's Kenneth Copeland claiming that God the
>                     Father is from another
>                     > planet<http://www.biblefacts.org/cult/mp3/motherplanet.mp3>
>                     > .
>                     >
>                     > Here Paul Crouch and Kenneth
>                     > Copeland<http://www.biblefacts.org/cult/mp3/jesusnotgod.mp3>question
>                     > that Jesus was God.
>                     >
>                     > Here Benny Hinn teaches
>                     > <http://www.biblefacts.org/cult/mp3/bennywegod.mp3>that
>                     God made us
>                     > little gods.
>                     >
>                     > Here Copeland lays the foundation of Word of
>                     > Faith<http://www.biblefacts.org/cult/mp3/copland-god-man.mp3>teachings–Adam
>                     > was God.
>                     >
>                     > Those who are further interested in learning
>                     about the roots of the Word
>                     > of
>                     > Faith teachings should read this excellent
>                     > article<http://www.letusreason.org/WF48.htm>on
>                     how the Word of Faith
>                     > teachings came out of the mind sciences.
>                     >
>                     > ShareThis<http://sharethis.com/item?&wp=2.5.1&publisher=832b0e77-8253-476c-8a10-bc287bfe33c0&title=In+Their+Own+Words+%26%238212%3B+Word+Faith+Teachers&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sliceoflaodicea.com%2F%3Fp%3D980
>                     <http://sharethis.com/item?&wp=2.5.1&publisher=832b0e77-8253-476c-8a10-bc287bfe33c0&title=In+Their+Own+Words+%26%238212%3B+Word+Faith+Teachers&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sliceoflaodicea.com%2F%3Fp%3D980>>
>                     > Popout
>                     > Original audio source
>                     <http://www.biblefacts.org/cult/mp3/duplacate.mp3>
>                     >
>                     >
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>                 */Shalom Alechem...Barukh Hashem Y'shua!/*
>                 (*Peace and Blessings in Jesus' name!*)
>                 Pastor Dr. David Powell
>
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