Bill, I started several years ago preaching Salvation on Sunday AM, Growth Sunday PM, Doctrinal things on Wed. PM The reason was what I was understanding about most Church people. Thank God for Bible teachers! Rev. Charles Cockroft Associate Pastor First Assembly of God, Denison, Texas A Church Without Walls -------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill burns" <burnswh@...> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 6:56 PM To: <pastorsforum@...> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] new question > Charles, we had an artical in our local paper sighting that some 50% of > "Christians" think there is more than one way to Heaven. Barna's surveys > over the years backs up this view and others that are clearly not within > the essentials of being Christian. So, yes to your question. > > Our founding Pastor preaches over and over the essentials so as those who > attend will not be ignorant of true belief. > > > Bill Burns > Old Town Soup Kitchen > 600 Gratiot St. > Saginaw, Michigan 48602 989.791.4549 or cell 989.220.6228 > > > --- On Fri, 7/18/08, Jerry Lewis <jlew0@...> wrote: > >> From: Jerry Lewis <jlew0@...> >> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] new question >> To: pastorsforum@... >> Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 1:54 PM >> Yes, they can. They can even be born again and believe >> error. >> >> Jerry >> "And Jesus rebuked the unclean spirit, and healed the >> child, and delivered >> him again to his father. And they were all amazed at the >> mighty power of >> God" (Luke 9:42-43). >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "JoynCharles" <joyncharles@...> >> To: <pastorsforum@...> >> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] new question >> >> >> > Bill, >> > Can they be a Christian and not know what they >> believe? >> > >> > Rev. Charles Cockroft >> > Associate Pastor >> > First Assembly of God, Denison, Texas >> > A Church Without Walls >> > >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------- >> > From: "Bill burns" <burnswh@...> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:45 PM >> > To: <pastorsforum@...> >> > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] new question >> > >> >> Judging from Barna's reports a lot of >> Christians don't even know what a >> >> Christian is to begin with. >> >> >> >> Bill Burns >> >> Old Town Soup Kitchen >> >> 600 Gratiot St. >> >> Saginaw, Michigan 48602 989.791.4549 or cell >> 989.220.6228 >> >> >> >> >> >> --- On Thu, 7/17/08, Jerry >> <jlew@...> wrote: >> >> >> >>> From: Jerry <jlew@...> >> >>> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] new question >> >>> To: pastorsforum@... >> >>> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 6:39 PM >> >>> DW, >> >>> >> >>> God's promises are truly precious, but it >> is a glaring >> >>> misconception among many Christians to >> mistakenly imagine >> >>> that the promises are automatically fulfilled >> in their >> >>> lives just because they are Christians. Some >> Christians >> >>> simply do not know what God has promised. >> Some know but do >> >>> not trust God to fulfill His word unto them. >> They think >> >>> that they are an exception for some reason. >> Some are >> >>> deceived into thinking that everything that >> happens is >> >>> God-sent into their lives for a purpose. Some >> are passive >> >>> and let the Devil and sin run all over them. >> There is a >> >>> fight to faith. God commands the Christian to >> resist the >> >>> Devil. The Christian is in warfare against >> principalities >> >>> and powers. If he does not wield the Sword of >> the Spirit >> >>> he will succumb to the wiles of the Devil and >> live in >> >>> defeat. >> >>> >> >>> Jerry >> >>> "And Jesus rebuked the unclean spirit, >> and healed the >> >>> child, and delivered him again to his father. >> And they were >> >>> all amazed at the mighty power of God" >> (Luke 9:42-43). >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: David Warner >> >>> To: pastorsforum@... >> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:38 PM >> >>> Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] new question >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I do not think it is ever safe (nor good >> Bible study) to >> >>> generate an opposite doctrine to the precious >> promises of >> >>> God. What Jesus promises to do is to not blot >> out his name >> >>> and to confess his name before the Father and >> angels. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> DW >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>> >> >>> From: Jerry Lewis >> [mailto:jlew0@...] >> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:30 PM >> >>> To: pastorsforum@... >> >>> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] new question >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Does this verse mean that the Christian who >> does NOT walk >> >>> in victory over sin WILL have his name blotted >> out of the >> >>> book of life??? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Jerry >> >>> >> >>> "And Jesus rebuked the unclean spirit, >> and healed >> >>> the child, and delivered him again to his >> father. And they >> >>> were all amazed at the mighty power of >> God" (Luke >> >>> 9:42-43). >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> >> >>> From: David Warner >> >>> >> >>> To: pastorsforum@... >> >>> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:39 AM >> >>> >> >>> Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] new question >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> He that overcometh, the same shall be >> clothed in white >> >>> raiment; and I will not blot out his name out >> of the book >> >>> of life, but I will confess his name before my >> Father, and >> >>> before his angels. >> >>> >> >>> (Revelation 3:5) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> >> >>> From: MICHAEL >> [mailto:drmike1@...] >> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:48 AM >> >>> To: pastorsforum@... >> >>> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] new question >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Hey DW >> >>> >> >>> WHich verse do you see saying that He >> promises >> >>> "NOT" to blot out our names? >> >>> >> >>> Mike >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "David Warner" >> <dwarner@...> >> >>> To: pastorsforum@... >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:03:39 PM >> (GMT-0600) >> >>> America/Guatemala >> >>> Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] new question >> >>> >> >>> It seems the Bible says names were written >> in the Book >> >>> of Life from the foundation of the world >> (creation). >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> It also seems to me that the "book of >> the >> >>> loving" would be equated with "the >> land of the >> >>> living" in the OT. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> There is no promise of blotting out a name >> in the NT >> >>> but a promise of *not* blotting out one's >> name. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Then, you have to settle with your view of >> Scripture is >> >>> The Book of Life is the same as The Lamb's >> Book of Life. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> DW >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> >> >>> From: MICHAEL >> [mailto:drmike1@...] >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:02 AM >> >>> To: pastorsforum@... >> >>> Subject: [PastorsForum] new question >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Good morning brothers >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> We might have discussed this briefly >> recently, but I >> >>> need a reminder. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> When does ones name get written into the >> Lamb's >> >>> Book of Life. Is it before the foundation of >> the world? or >> >>> at salvation? or at creation? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> God does promise/threaten to "blot >> out" >> >>> certain names. What does that indicate? Were >> the names >> >>> always there? then get erased? Do they get >> written down at >> >>> salvation? If a person's name is >> "blotted >> >>> out", what does that mean? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Exodus 32:33 (KJV) >> >>> 33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever >> hath sinned >> >>> against me, him will I blot out of my book. >> >>> >> >>> Psalms 69:28 (KJV) >> >>> 28 Let them be blotted out of the book of >> the living, >> >>> and not be written with the righteous. >> >>> >> >>> Revelation 17:8 (KJV) >> >>> 8 , whose names were not written in the >> book of life >> >>> from the foundation of the world, when they >> behold the >> >>> beast that was, and is not, and yet is. >> >>> >> >>> Revelation 20:15 (KJV) >> >>> 15 And whosoever was not found written in >> the book of >> >>> life was cast into the lake of fire. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Need this for a discussion tonight. >> Thanks for all >> >>> your help. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Mike Tittle >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> To subscribe, send a message to: >> >>> pastorsforum-join@... 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