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From: Mike Cantrell <mcantrell@...>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 19:12:25 -0500
Paul tells us to being in subjection to the laws of the land.  If they are 
living without the legal requirements for marriage, then they are in 
violation to Gods commands in that area also.  Romans 13.

Mike Cantrell

-----Original Message-----
From:	Steven G. Rockhill [SMTP:revrock@...]
Sent:	Friday, August 13, 2004 6:40 PM
To:	pastorsforum@...
Subject:	Re: [PastorsForum] new thread

 << File: ATT00001.htm >> William,
  Don't think we have covered this topic before.  1 Cor. 5-7 would be
some good chapters to share and have her study.  It appears from what
you say that she has no indication that what she is doing is sin in
God's eyes.  It could be that she just does not know (ignorance of the
Scriptures) or it could be that she has some faulty theology that she is
basing this on (God wants me to be happy and if it feels good God wants
me to do it) or it could be that she has not been saved.  So you may
need to try and determine which is the issue.  I would also offer to do
pre-marital counseling with them culminating in their getting married
before God and witnesses.  But during this time they would need to live
separately and abstain from any sexual activity.  It seems as though the
Spirit is definitely leading your heart, so keep your ground.  Keep
preaching the gospel and even in the pre-marital don't make any
assumptions and plainly share the gospel.  It would also be important to
emphasize the cleansing and forgiveness of sins and that there is a hope
for change.
  You could also just point out references in Scripture to 'marriages'
and that this is God's expectation for a man and a woman - to justify
their marriage.  They both need to understand that Marriage is much more
than a 'one flesh' sexual union.  Marriage is a covenant.  We have the
example of Christ's covenant with His Bride the Church (Eph. 5).
  Hope this is helpful.

Peace,
Steve

stricklands1 wrote:

>     I know you guys have probably already addressed this issue in the
> past but, I am new again to the forum and am currently facing this
> issue. It is a Sunday morning regular that feels as though God wants
> her to sing specials. She has done so in the past, just not here. She
> is currently living with her fiancee. I have told her that because of
> this, living with him, I cannot allow her to sing special music in the
> church, but will be glad for her to as soon as they get married. I had
> prayed about this for a few weeks and knew from His leading that I had
> to take this position. Now my question is, if cornered, what is the
> scriptural basis that I can take her for the marriage ceremony needed
> in the eyes of God for Him to recognize this relationship and it not
> be sinful. She had asked me if God wouldn't already consider them
> married since they were in joined and united in the way that they are.
>
> William
> Jacksonville, AL
>



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