[soundofgrace] Re: [soundofgrace] Anglican Church

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From: rob page <rpage@...>
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:30:04 +1300
   Sorry guys, like to be able to fill you in on the spiritual condition 
of Anglican churches down here in NZ, but I really don't  know of any  
evangelical Anglican churches. I'm sure there could be, but all we read 
or hear  about is from the liberals. The Aussies, across the pond, have 
got a great center of evangelical Anglicans in Sydney as someone has 
already said.
 In this morning's  local paper (Otago Daily Times,) a Dunedin (my home 
town) respected but liberal   "Very Rev"  minister, wrote an article 
filled with sweetly reasoned anti-scriptual junk in which he tried to 
refute an evangelical columnist who dared criticise the Auckland Bishop 
who had just written a lot of  conservative- mocking drivel. I really 
appreciate Evangelical Anglicans. And I do see a split coming. I  see an 
increasingly clear line being drawn in the sand.  We need to encourage 
one another - draw closer to Jesus now!
Our nation down here is quickly becoming a "Nana" State, ruled and 
controlled by radical feminists, homosexuals and lesbians,  "pushing the 
envelope" more and more. All politically correct but increasingly bolder 
in  anti-Christian rhetoric. The leftist government leadership would 
rather side with Mohamed and his disciples than Christ and His 
disciples.  However, we know the Lord of glory reigns and He's given us 
extended time to be His witnesses.  
  Rob Page.     

  
        



John Saunders wrote:
> Shane
>  
> Things seem to be getting a kick along for unholy unity from our own 
> hometown Downunder, based on this article in this mornings state paper:
> John S
>  
>
> The Courier Mail, Melanie Christiansen, February 19, 2007 11:00pm
>
> *BRISBANE'S Catholic Archbishop John Bathersby is leading a radical 
> push to merge the world's Anglican and Catholic churches. *As joint 
> chair of an international commission of both churches, Archbishop 
> Bathersby helped produce a 42-page statement on how Anglicans and 
> Catholics could re-unite, possibly under the leadership of the Pope. 
> Senior bishops in both churches have already backed the statement, 
> which is now being considered by the Vatican ahead of a formal 
> response. It has also been sent to a gathering of Anglican Archbishops 
> in Tanzania.
>
> Speaking in Brisbane yesterday, Archbishop Bathersby //said he was 
> optimistic the statement would help the churches move towards "full 
> visible unity".
>
> "It's not only longed for from the Catholic side, it's longed for from 
> the Anglican side too," Archbishop Bathersby said. "We recognise that 
> the separation which exists between us interferes with our mission." 
> Despite differences over issues such as divorce and contraception, 
> Archbishop Bathersby said there were no insurmountable hurdles to a 
> merger of the churches. He said some of the most difficult issues were 
> Anglican support for the ordination of women and its recent decision 
> to ordain a practising homosexual in the US, which is also causing a 
> rift among Anglicans.
>
> But, he said, the two churches had already established good working 
> relationships in many parts of the world. The unity statement, yet to 
> be formally released, spells out areas of agreement and disagreement. 
> Called /Growing Together in Unity and Mission/, it also proposes 
> practical steps to bring the churches closer together. ...
>
>  
>
>  
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* John G. Reisinger [mailto:JREISINGER24@...]
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:27 AM
>     *To:* soundofgrace@...
>     *Subject:* Re: [soundofgrace] Anglican Church
>
>     Thanks for the note on Anglicans in Australia. My comments were
>     made based on spending ten years in Canada and observing the
>     Anglicans there.  JGR  
>
>     On Feb 19, 2007, at 6:22 AM, Shane Becker wrote:
>
>>     Within the Anglicans throughout Australia there is a group
>>     referred to as the "Evangelical Anglicans" or "Sydney Anglicans"
>>     (although their influence has spread well beyond just Sydney). 
>>     They are probably the greatest bastion for spiritual truth in
>>     Australia.  They are Calvinists and evangelical and have a
>>     widespread influence.  I know of an NCTer (Calvinist, Baptist,
>>     etc) pastor that decided to join the Evangelical branch of the
>>     Anglican church as the options for someone like him within the
>>     existing Calvinist Baptist church were somewhat limited.  (A sad
>>     commentary on the state of the Baptist churches down here - and
>>     all the more reason why some of you should come on over!
>>     Listening Joe? Moe? Others?)
>>      
>>     Their primary student training college is Moore College which
>>     regularly has DA Carson attend as a guest lecturer.  Graeme
>>     Goldsworthy is on staff with Moore College also.
>>      
>>     I know the Evangelical Anglicans have reached NZ but can't
>>     comment on the details.  In Australia and NZ you generally won't
>>     find much better than the Evangelical Anglicans.
>>      
>>     In Christ,
>>      
>>     Shane Becker.
>>
>>
>>      
>>     On 2/19/07, *Carlo Rose* <rosec007@...
>>     <mailto:rosec007@...>> wrote:
>>
>>         I was wondering, if any of you know, in particular, those of
>>         you on the other side of the world, like the UK or Australia,
>>         and especially if there are any Sounders in NZ, know much
>>         about the Anglican Church.  I know it's all screwed up in the
>>         United States, but I'm curious about its state in NZ. 
>>          
>>         A missionary I use to support from Campus Crusade went back
>>         to NZ and he's going to an Anglican church there. I was
>>         concerned about a few things so ceased my support and
>>         supporting someone regularly from Biblical Ministries
>>         Worldwide that I know will go directly to preaching the gospel. 
>>          
>>         Anyway, There appears to be some real conservative Anglicans
>>         like the Latimer Fellowship that are dead serious about being
>>         sticking to many biblical principles.  But a lot of the
>>         Anglican church is turning liberal.
>>          
>>         I don't care about whether some within the Anglican church
>>         are really sticking to "many" biblical principles per se. 
>>         What I really care about is if they are a sect which teaches
>>         a gospel other than the gospel of Jesus (thus the many
>>         biblical principles they teach are moot). 
>>          
>>         Anyway, pretty ignorant about the Anglican church and given
>>         its break-up, I was wondering if anyone can shed some light. 
>>          
>>         Thanks,
>>          
>>         Carlo
>>
>>
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