> -----Original Message----- > From: rob page [mailto:rpage@...] > Sent: Tuesday, 20 February 2007 5:30 PM > To: soundofgrace@... > Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Anglican Church > > Sorry guys, like to be able to fill you in on the spiritual condition > of Anglican churches down here in NZ, but I really don't know of any > evangelical Anglican churches. I'm sure there could be, but all we read > or hear about is from the liberals. The Aussies, across the pond, have > got a great center of evangelical Anglicans in Sydney as someone has > already said. > In this morning's local paper (Otago Daily Times,) a Dunedin (my home > town) respected but liberal "Very Rev" minister, wrote an article > filled with sweetly reasoned anti-scriptual junk in which he tried to > refute an evangelical columnist who dared criticise the Auckland Bishop > who had just written a lot of conservative- mocking drivel. I really > appreciate Evangelical Anglicans. And I do see a split coming. I see an > increasingly clear line being drawn in the sand. We need to encourage > one another - draw closer to Jesus now! > Our nation down here is quickly becoming a "Nana" State, ruled and > controlled by radical feminists, homosexuals and lesbians, "pushing the > envelope" more and more. All politically correct but increasingly bolder > in anti-Christian rhetoric. The leftist government leadership would > rather side with Mohamed and his disciples than Christ and His > disciples. However, we know the Lord of glory reigns and He's given us > extended time to be His witnesses. > Rob Page. > What is this, Rob? Never miss a chance to make a political statement? Jeff > > > > > > John Saunders wrote: > > Shane > > > > Things seem to be getting a kick along for unholy unity from our own > > hometown Downunder, based on this article in this mornings state paper: > > John S > > > > > > The Courier Mail, Melanie Christiansen, February 19, 2007 11:00pm > > > > *BRISBANE'S Catholic Archbishop John Bathersby is leading a radical > > push to merge the world's Anglican and Catholic churches. *As joint > > chair of an international commission of both churches, Archbishop > > Bathersby helped produce a 42-page statement on how Anglicans and > > Catholics could re-unite, possibly under the leadership of the Pope. > > Senior bishops in both churches have already backed the statement, > > which is now being considered by the Vatican ahead of a formal > > response. It has also been sent to a gathering of Anglican Archbishops > > in Tanzania. > > > > Speaking in Brisbane yesterday, Archbishop Bathersby //said he was > > optimistic the statement would help the churches move towards "full > > visible unity". > > > > "It's not only longed for from the Catholic side, it's longed for from > > the Anglican side too," Archbishop Bathersby said. "We recognise that > > the separation which exists between us interferes with our mission." > > Despite differences over issues such as divorce and contraception, > > Archbishop Bathersby said there were no insurmountable hurdles to a > > merger of the churches. He said some of the most difficult issues were > > Anglican support for the ordination of women and its recent decision > > to ordain a practising homosexual in the US, which is also causing a > > rift among Anglicans. > > > > But, he said, the two churches had already established good working > > relationships in many parts of the world. The unity statement, yet to > > be formally released, spells out areas of agreement and disagreement. > > Called /Growing Together in Unity and Mission/, it also proposes > > practical steps to bring the churches closer together. ... > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > *From:* John G. Reisinger [mailto:JREISINGER24@...] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:27 AM > > *To:* soundofgrace@... > > *Subject:* Re: [soundofgrace] Anglican Church > > > > Thanks for the note on Anglicans in Australia. My comments were > > made based on spending ten years in Canada and observing the > > Anglicans there. JGR > > > > On Feb 19, 2007, at 6:22 AM, Shane Becker wrote: > > > >> Within the Anglicans throughout Australia there is a group > >> referred to as the "Evangelical Anglicans" or "Sydney Anglicans" > >> (although their influence has spread well beyond just Sydney). > >> They are probably the greatest bastion for spiritual truth in > >> Australia. They are Calvinists and evangelical and have a > >> widespread influence. I know of an NCTer (Calvinist, Baptist, > >> etc) pastor that decided to join the Evangelical branch of the > >> Anglican church as the options for someone like him within the > >> existing Calvinist Baptist church were somewhat limited. (A sad > >> commentary on the state of the Baptist churches down here - and > >> all the more reason why some of you should come on over! > >> Listening Joe? Moe? Others?) > >> > >> Their primary student training college is Moore College which > >> regularly has DA Carson attend as a guest lecturer. Graeme > >> Goldsworthy is on staff with Moore College also. > >> > >> I know the Evangelical Anglicans have reached NZ but can't > >> comment on the details. In Australia and NZ you generally won't > >> find much better than the Evangelical Anglicans. > >> > >> In Christ, > >> > >> Shane Becker. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 2/19/07, *Carlo Rose* <rosec007@... > >> <mailto:rosec007@...>> wrote: > >> > >> I was wondering, if any of you know, in particular, those of > >> you on the other side of the world, like the UK or Australia, > >> and especially if there are any Sounders in NZ, know much > >> about the Anglican Church. I know it's all screwed up in the > >> United States, but I'm curious about its state in NZ. > >> > >> A missionary I use to support from Campus Crusade went back > >> to NZ and he's going to an Anglican church there. I was > >> concerned about a few things so ceased my support and > >> supporting someone regularly from Biblical Ministries > >> Worldwide that I know will go directly to preaching the gospel. > >> > >> Anyway, There appears to be some real conservative Anglicans > >> like the Latimer Fellowship that are dead serious about being > >> sticking to many biblical principles. But a lot of the > >> Anglican church is turning liberal. > >> > >> I don't care about whether some within the Anglican church > >> are really sticking to "many" biblical principles per se. > >> What I really care about is if they are a sect which teaches > >> a gospel other than the gospel of Jesus (thus the many > >> biblical principles they teach are moot). > >> > >> Anyway, pretty ignorant about the Anglican church and given > >> its break-up, I was wondering if anyone can shed some light. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Carlo > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Read the Sound of Grace pages at > > http://www.soundofgrace.com > > > > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: soundofgrace- > unsubscribe@... > > > > To view our online archive go to our web page at > > http://www.associate.com/groups/soundofgrace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Read the Sound of Grace pages at > > http://www.soundofgrace.com > > > > To unsubsc > > ribe, send ANY message to: soundofgrace-unsubscribe@... > > > > To view o > > ur online archive go to our web page at > > http://www.associate.com/groups/soun > > dofgrace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Read the Sound of Grace pages at > http://www.soundofgrace.com > > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: soundofgrace- > unsubscribe@... > > To view our online archive go to our web page at > http://www.associate.com/groups/soundofgrace > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/693 - Release Date: 19/02/2007 > 5:01 PM > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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