Jeff Scanlan wrote: > > Yeah, right Jeff. bit of overflow of frustration that's been building > up over the past few weeks. They're presently very close to passing legislation that makes smacking your child a criminal act. There I go again! You're right. Gotta get out of this political mind-set. Always appreciate your thoughtful input on various subjects that come up in the group. - Blessings, Rob. > What is this, Rob? Never miss a chance to make a political statement? > > Jeff > > > > > >> >> >> >> John Saunders wrote: >> >>> Shane >>> >>> Things seem to be getting a kick along for unholy unity from our own >>> hometown Downunder, based on this article in this mornings state paper: >>> John S >>> >>> >>> The Courier Mail, Melanie Christiansen, February 19, 2007 11:00pm >>> >>> *BRISBANE'S Catholic Archbishop John Bathersby is leading a radical >>> push to merge the world's Anglican and Catholic churches. *As joint >>> chair of an international commission of both churches, Archbishop >>> Bathersby helped produce a 42-page statement on how Anglicans and >>> Catholics could re-unite, possibly under the leadership of the Pope. >>> Senior bishops in both churches have already backed the statement, >>> which is now being considered by the Vatican ahead of a formal >>> response. It has also been sent to a gathering of Anglican Archbishops >>> in Tanzania. >>> >>> Speaking in Brisbane yesterday, Archbishop Bathersby //said he was >>> optimistic the statement would help the churches move towards "full >>> visible unity". >>> >>> "It's not only longed for from the Catholic side, it's longed for from >>> the Anglican side too," Archbishop Bathersby said. "We recognise that >>> the separation which exists between us interferes with our mission." >>> Despite differences over issues such as divorce and contraception, >>> Archbishop Bathersby said there were no insurmountable hurdles to a >>> merger of the churches. He said some of the most difficult issues were >>> Anglican support for the ordination of women and its recent decision >>> to ordain a practising homosexual in the US, which is also causing a >>> rift among Anglicans. >>> >>> But, he said, the two churches had already established good working >>> relationships in many parts of the world. The unity statement, yet to >>> be formally released, spells out areas of agreement and disagreement. >>> Called /Growing Together in Unity and Mission/, it also proposes >>> practical steps to bring the churches closer together. ... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> *From:* John G. Reisinger [mailto:JREISINGER24@...] >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:27 AM >>> *To:* soundofgrace@... >>> *Subject:* Re: [soundofgrace] Anglican Church >>> >>> Thanks for the note on Anglicans in Australia. My comments were >>> made based on spending ten years in Canada and observing the >>> Anglicans there. JGR >>> >>> On Feb 19, 2007, at 6:22 AM, Shane Becker wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Within the Anglicans throughout Australia there is a group >>>> referred to as the "Evangelical Anglicans" or "Sydney Anglicans" >>>> (although their influence has spread well beyond just Sydney). >>>> They are probably the greatest bastion for spiritual truth in >>>> Australia. They are Calvinists and evangelical and have a >>>> widespread influence. I know of an NCTer (Calvinist, Baptist, >>>> etc) pastor that decided to join the Evangelical branch of the >>>> Anglican church as the options for someone like him within the >>>> existing Calvinist Baptist church were somewhat limited. (A sad >>>> commentary on the state of the Baptist churches down here - and >>>> all the more reason why some of you should come on over! >>>> Listening Joe? Moe? Others?) >>>> >>>> Their primary student training college is Moore College which >>>> regularly has DA Carson attend as a guest lecturer. Graeme >>>> Goldsworthy is on staff with Moore College also. >>>> >>>> I know the Evangelical Anglicans have reached NZ but can't >>>> comment on the details. In Australia and NZ you generally won't >>>> find much better than the Evangelical Anglicans. >>>> >>>> In Christ, >>>> >>>> Shane Becker. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/19/07, *Carlo Rose* <rosec007@... >>>> <mailto:rosec007@...>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I was wondering, if any of you know, in particular, those of >>>> you on the other side of the world, like the UK or Australia, >>>> and especially if there are any Sounders in NZ, know much >>>> about the Anglican Church. I know it's all screwed up in the >>>> United States, but I'm curious about its state in NZ. >>>> >>>> A missionary I use to support from Campus Crusade went back >>>> to NZ and he's going to an Anglican church there. I was >>>> concerned about a few things so ceased my support and >>>> supporting someone regularly from Biblical Ministries >>>> Worldwide that I know will go directly to preaching the gospel. >>>> >>>> Anyway, There appears to be some real conservative Anglicans >>>> like the Latimer Fellowship that are dead serious about being >>>> sticking to many biblical principles. But a lot of the >>>> Anglican church is turning liberal. >>>> >>>> I don't care about whether some within the Anglican church >>>> are really sticking to "many" biblical principles per se. >>>> What I really care about is if they are a sect which teaches >>>> a gospel other than the gospel of Jesus (thus the many >>>> biblical principles they teach are moot). >>>> >>>> Anyway, pretty ignorant about the Anglican church and given >>>> its break-up, I was wondering if anyone can shed some light. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Carlo >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Read the Sound of Grace pages at >>> http://www.soundofgrace.com >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: soundofgrace- >>> >> unsubscribe@... >> >>> To view our online archive go to our web page at >>> http://www.associate.com/groups/soundofgrace >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Read the Sound of Grace pages at >>> http://www.soundofgrace.com >>> >>> To unsubsc >>> ribe, send ANY message to: soundofgrace-unsubscribe@... >>> >>> To view o >>> ur online archive go to our web page at >>> http://www.associate.com/groups/soun >>> dofgrace >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Read the Sound of Grace pages at >> http://www.soundofgrace.com >> >> To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: soundofgrace- >> unsubscribe@... >> >> To view our online archive go to our web page at >> http://www.associate.com/groups/soundofgrace >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/693 - Release Date: 19/02/2007 >> 5:01 PM >> >> > >