I am skeptical of anything from Rick Warren and I am not to up on John Maxwell so I Can't help you. Jeff Johnny & Lisa Schlaack <johnlisa@...> wrote: What are perspectives on borrowing money to build a new church? Also, can anyone give input on the best way to raise funds to pay for a new building? Some churches have used Rick Warren's self-guided packet. Other churches have hired people like Injoy(John Maxwell) to do a Capital Gifts Campaign. Some churches have done it themselves. What are your thoughts? Thanks, Johnny --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 11/6/2003 -- Read the Sound of Grace pages at http://www.soundofgrace.com To unsubscribe, send ANY message to To view our online archive go to our web page at http://www.associate.com/groups/soundofgrace Jeff