Yes Anna you have a good point! Jeff > -----Original Message----- > From: anna@... [mailto:anna@...] > Sent: Thursday, 1 May 2008 2:58 AM > To: soundofgrace@... > Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Baptism Celebration > > Could it be that some of the easy-believism, easy-baptism (as well as > the lack of concern to be baptized) stuff comes about b/c of a lack > of preaching the whole salvation message, in the pulpits and in daily > life? In many other countries, the believe/repent/baptize line is > very clearly what will separate them from their family and even mean > death. They see it all the time--they see the stark contrast between > following Christ and not. Baptism is the clincher, and isn't > entered into lightly (but IS entered into immediately after the > profession of faith). In countries such as the USA that has some > more religious freedom, being a disciple of Christ does not usually > mean death, but a true walk with Christ will mean true persecution of > some type, will mean emptying ourselves of all we hold dear, if need > be, and will most definitely mean pursuing a life that is > increasingly and obviously different than those around us. Maybe we > don't see enough true Christianity to make the salvation message and > believe/repent message.. very clear. Somehow, onlookers should see > that, to enter into this means leaving all, counting the cost -- it > becomes part of the whole message. It is no longer I that live. > Baptism becomes profoundly clear, immediate, and not entered into > lightly as well. "I was dead and now am alive w/Christ. Baptize me > so I can be on my way as His follower!" > > -- > Read the Sound of Grace pages at > http://www.soundofgrace.com > > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: soundofgrace- > unsubscribe@... > > To view our online archive go to our web page at > http://www.associate.com/groups/soundofgrace >