[soundofgrace] Re: [soundofgrace] No Infant Salvation Chris M

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From: Chris Arnzen <carnzen@...>
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:30:55 -0500
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From: "Night Lighter" <lightdanight@...>
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Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: [soundofgrace] No Infant Salvation Chris M


> Chris,
> I am not sure how you are using these verses to support your view
> of an age of accountability? Are you saying that the age of accountability
> is not an age such as 12 but an age as in the time of the bondage of the
> old covenant? Interesting, but are not the reprobates still accountable?
>
> Or are you saying that all who died before the law or in lands where the
> law is not known are saved because they don't know the law and therefore
> are not condemned?
>
> Just not sure what you are saying.
>
> Jack

[Chris] To quote Richard Nixon, "Let me make myself perfectly clear". I
thought I was making myself crystal clear that I was not referring to
anything regarding an age of accountability for *salvation*. I affirm we ALL
(elect and non-elect alike) deserve God's wrath from the instant of our
conception in the womb. I was merely saying that as Baptists we historically
have never baptized, nor admitted to the Lord's Table (non-salvific
ordinances), a child so young in age that his profession of faith was not
credible due to the fact that repentance and faith are always an essential
requirement in the Scriptures for the ordinances to be administered to the
candidates. I guarantee that nearly every toddler born to Christian parents,
of an age where speaking is possible, has muttered something about loving
Jesus, typically at the coaching of the parents. Baptists have historically
delayed baptism and admittance to the Lord's Table until a child is old
enough to truly demonstrate that he or she can understand and count the cost
of his or her profession. All I ever meant by my statement was that Baptists
should be careful how they word their protests to "an age of accountability"
so that we do not wind up sounding like paedobaptists and
paedocommunionists.


> "Chris B. McKinney" <cmck@...> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Night Lighter [mailto:lightdanight@...]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 7:53 PM
> >
> > I don't believe people die by accident and I do believe that God
> > preserves His elect. And I am a Baptist. There is no age of
> > accountability presented in my Bible, where is it in yours?
>
> What about this:
>
> Rom 7:7-11
> 7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known
> sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said,
Thou
> shalt not covet.
> 8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of
> concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
> 9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin
> revived, and I died.
> 10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto
> death.
> 11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it
slew
> me.
> (KJV)
>
> --Chris McKinney
>
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