[soundofgrace] Re: [soundofgrace] Miracles

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From: H Dorrington <hjdinfl@...>
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 15:31:48 -0700 (PDT)
I agree that it was finished at the cross but does
that mean that Jesus is no longer active in the
affairs of His Church and the believers that are a
part of His Church? We know He still answers prayer,
does He not? And He intercedes on our behalf, right?

Does Hebrews 1:1&2 also rule out that the OT
Theophonies were Christophonies?  Or is it only
speaking to the revelation of Scripture?

Now I agree that Hebrews 1:1&2 rules out an angel
telling us which lottery numbers to play or which
horse to pick in the fifth race but does if restrict
Jesus from responding by speaking? Are we not still in
the last days?  I am not looking to justify an
experience but rather evidence from Scripture that He
may open or close a door and we may be overwhelmed in
the peace that passes all understanding but that He no
longer speaks.

Thanks,
Harry 


--- Jen Epstein <jlepstein@...> wrote:

> Harry:
> > While I agree with what you are saying, does those
> two
> > verses say that there is no more speaking today?
> >
> > Spoken which in the Greek is laleo. Do we find it
> in a
> > tense which mean did but no longer does or does it
> not
> > say that?
> >
> > Is there any Scripture that prohibits or mutes God
> > from being able to speak to someone today?
> 
> Heb. 1 contrasts how God spoke in the past with how
> He spoke at the  
> time Hebrews was written.  In the past, God spoke at
> various times,  
> but in the present, He only spoke by His Son. 
> Notice the argument  
> from silence that we have no other place in
> Scripture that tells that  
> God speaks in any other time.
> 
> In the past, God also spoke by the prophets in
> various ways.  Then He  
> spoke by one final prophet -- His Son.  Verse 3 goes
> on to describe  
> Who Christ is, which gives us a sense of the
> finality of revelation:
> 
> "whom He has appointed heir of all things,
> through whom also He made the worlds;
> who being the brightness of His glory
> and the express image of His person,
> and upholding all things by the word of His power,
> when He had by Himself purged our sins,
> sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,"
> 
> Does this sound like an insufficient revelation? 
> Should we look for  
> even more past all this?  Or is Christ our full
> revelation?
> 
> Did Christ accomplish all He came to do?  Would that
> include giving  
> His revelation?
> 
> And were the miracles that He did, and those His
> apostles did after  
> Him, for the purpose of alerting us that God was
> speaking to us  
> through Jesus and His apostles?
> 
> If we understand the purpose for the miracles, we
> understand why we  
> don't need any now either.
> 
> It is finished!
> 
> 
> Blessings,
> Jen Epstein
> http://jensgems.wordpress.com
> 
> Every saint has a past and every sinner has a
> future.
> 
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