In a message dated 12/27/03 2:25:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, SteveF_MS@... writes: > Infants are born inheriting the same evil nature we all inherit from Adam. > At it's root is selfishness, and one doesn't need to be with a newborn long > to experience the truth of that in them. Ask any new mother who longs for > just one full night's sleep. > > Both Jacob and Esau were already evil, even before their hand was forced to > demonstrate it for themselves or their parents. > God, in His sovereignty, chose to love and change Jacob for God's own glory. > Esau He chose not to change, but continue to hate as an enemy. > He would have been just in leaving both of them as enemies. But He chose > one, for the sake of His own name. > Thank you Steve for making THE point we should be focused on. There is only one "way" unto the Father, not "ways". And the Scripture states: "And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." (Heb 11:6) First, there's "faith", then "must believe" and finally "who earnestly seek him". Doesn't seem to be much room for "yes, but...." Let's not be guilty of presenting more than one way unto the Father. "There's no one righteous, not even one"... Not even one of our little "babies", no matter what age. Without the shed blood of Jesus Christ covering them they cannot stand before the Father. And there's no biblical proof that Christ's blood will cover anyone outside of saving faith. Why can't we bow our knees to that? Barry "...Have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" - Romans 5:1