I mainly lurk, and that not too well, so please excuse me if this has already been raised under this thread. Who are the 2 or 3 taken along in verse 16 and, especially, to what are they witnesses? I have generally heard them described as witnesses to the confrontation between accuser and accused. Doesn't the reference to Dt.19:15 (and paralel instruction regarding elders in 1Tim.5:19) rather suggest that they should be witnesses to the alleged offence? David.